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Post by phildeanx on Feb 21, 2020 18:56:04 GMT -6
I am really curious about your guys' experience with tackling wheels. A couple of questions:
1) I worry they would make the guys lunge. 2) What do you do with efficiency of rolling the wheel for one guy and then getting it loaded up for the next rep without too much wait time. 3) Do you feel they prepare guys to tackle in game situations? 4) Do you need a decently smooth surface to roll them? 5) Is it really better than tackling/fitting up on a person (other than limiting contact)?
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Post by Down 'n Out on Feb 21, 2020 19:29:00 GMT -6
Theyre ok. Lunging is an issue. I used them some for reping kickout blocks and pullers adjusting to run throughs.
You need two wheels to get efficient reps.
Theyre not enough alone, you still need real man v man drills. They do cut down on contact. Run a tackling drill 5 times, make 3 ring drills and 2 live
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Post by option1st on Feb 22, 2020 7:01:04 GMT -6
We use them a lot with our DB’s and I think they are a good tool for that position group. I think it helps with angle pursuit and wrapping up at contact. Seems like we always have a small kid or two on the backend and we are “just get them down” philosophy with the little ones. I think the wheel is good for that.
Don’t know how valuable it would be to other positions.
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Post by bluboy on Feb 22, 2020 8:11:17 GMT -6
1) I worry they would make the guys lunge. We had same thoughts, but these have really helped with guys staying on feet and coming to balance.
2) What do you do with efficiency of rolling the wheel for one guy and then getting it loaded up for the next rep without too much wait time. We have two, and whatever position group is using tackle wheel gets both of them. Only LB's and DB's use these.
3) Do you feel they prepare guys to tackle in game situations? We use these, as well as other tackling drills which involve using players holding shields.
4) Do you need a decently smooth surface to roll them? We use them on our grass practice field, not problems.
5) Is it really better than tackling/fitting up on a person (other than limiting contact)? I think it helps with pursuit angle, coming to balance, clubbing up at contact. I am old school and like to have tacklers pursue ball carrier, maintain leverage, and club-up ball carrier.
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Post by silkyice on Feb 22, 2020 9:36:14 GMT -6
1) I worry they would make the guys lunge. We had same thoughts, but these have really helped with guys staying on feet and coming to balance. 2) What do you do with efficiency of rolling the wheel for one guy and then getting it loaded up for the next rep without too much wait time. We have two, and whatever position group is using tackle wheel gets both of them. Only LB's and DB's use these. 3) Do you feel they prepare guys to tackle in game situations? We use these, as well as other tackling drills which involve using players holding shields. 4) Do you need a decently smooth surface to roll them? We use them on our grass practice field, not problems. 5) Is it really better than tackling/fitting up on a person (other than limiting contact)? I think it helps with pursuit angle, coming to balance, clubbing up at contact. I am old school and like to have tacklers pursue ball carrier, maintain leverage, and club-up ball carrier. I agree with all these except coming to balance. How are you guys doing that with the wheels? Our guys just run and roll right thru them.
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Post by bluboy on Feb 22, 2020 13:02:51 GMT -6
We make them run about 7-10 yards, then roll the wheel. Don't roll wheel right at them; roll it at angle to/away from them. It's similar to an angle tackle.
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Post by agap on Feb 22, 2020 13:21:37 GMT -6
We use them all the time. I like them. We’re going to use them more next year.
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Post by coachks on Feb 22, 2020 15:10:02 GMT -6
They’re fantastic. You do need 2-3 of them for efficiency (same way you have a line of scout kids during a drill).
We don’t do a ton of rolling with them, but I like them for traditional form tackling. Roll it right at a guy and they tackle the front of the wheel and wrap through the inside and pick it up and run. This forces them to get into a hitting position, wrap and explode up with their hips to get it off the ground.
We will do the same with an angle tackle and have them pick up the wheel without rolling (basically punch and arm through the inside and then wrap the other arm.
They’ve been really nice to add on to other drills that we used to have to use a kid holding a bag - those reps were always sloppy because kids will brother-in-law the tackle and slow down.
We also use them for your kickout blocks, angle roll tackle and the stuff they put on the videos, but in general we don’t roll them a ton once we are in the regular season.
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eagledc
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Post by eagledc on Feb 22, 2020 15:31:38 GMT -6
What size wheels do you guys suggest?
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Post by coachks on Feb 22, 2020 17:17:23 GMT -6
What size wheels do you guys suggest? 48 for HS Varsity. Can use a 42 for JV.
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Post by larrymoe on Feb 23, 2020 7:25:16 GMT -6
I bought 3 of these at my last stint as a HC and was not a fan. I ended up using them just because the boosters bought them for me and I didn't want to piss them off in my first year. I felt like that in the long run they'd cause more bad habits than they would help in injury prevention.
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Post by fballcoachg on Feb 23, 2020 17:31:27 GMT -6
Have any of you had shoulder concerns with the landing?
We haven’t but I cringe at times...it’s a (maybe unfounded) concern of mine
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Post by larrymoe on Feb 23, 2020 17:33:33 GMT -6
Have any of you had shoulder concerns with the landing? We haven’t but I cringe at times...it’s a (maybe unfounded) concern of mine Do you cringe when they tackle an actual human being? I'm failing to see why this would be any more cringeworthy than any other football activity.
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Post by fballcoachg on Feb 23, 2020 17:40:00 GMT -6
Because it looks awkward at times especially if they explode through and their body continues going while their shoulder and arm are pinned
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Post by bobgoodman on Feb 23, 2020 22:35:37 GMT -6
2) What do you do with efficiency of rolling the wheel for one guy and then getting it loaded up for the next rep without too much wait time. We roll it back and forth, alternating reps in opposite directions. Of course not, nothing is!
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Post by lmorris on Feb 25, 2020 9:24:39 GMT -6
I always thought they were gimicky and a waste of money. A local hospital donated two to every football team within a 50 mile radius. I have since bought two more.
Things I like, full speed angle tackling and not waiting on a guy to strap his helmet, or him twisting an ankle. I may think differently at a bigger school but with 20-30 kids can't afford anyone to get hurt. DB's and LB's work angle tackling, DL works anchoring and coming off of blocks and tackling in their gap. ILB's will also work a low head up tackle for that team who puts a 300 lb fullback back there.
I love the fact that we can go work out tackling year round without pads with the tackle tubes, and heads up drills with halfround dummies.
SUGGESTION: Make sure you get them with handles on the sides makes it much easier to roll. We have two with handles and two without, the two without hard to get them to speed to simulate outside runs.
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Post by QBCoachDurham on Feb 25, 2020 9:50:10 GMT -6
We do almost all of our tackling on tackling wheels and shadowman. You can get a ton of reps without human contact, so it definitely reduces the risk of injury. We don't tackle any better or worse than we did before we got them.
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