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Post by option1 on Nov 11, 2019 8:12:02 GMT -6
How are you recruiting your own hallways other than standing in the cafe at breakfast and lunch?
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Post by RunPeopleOver on Nov 11, 2019 9:16:10 GMT -6
I work at the middle school our county. Last year I invited all 7th and 8th grade male students to attend the after school weight training program at the HS weight room. It was just for the MS students, I averaged 20-25 kids per day. Our JV team had 30+ this season, had a great year. The two previous seasons we finished the season with 14 players. I also let them pick teams and play 7 on 7 on most days, those days I had more students come out.
This year I plan on doing a spring "7 on 7" league and a middle school scouting combine.
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Post by hsrose on Nov 11, 2019 12:41:13 GMT -6
Middle School - CA - Can't have contact with them until they have graduated from 8th grade. Undue influence. The AD's can go and have generic sports talks and take names for interest lists, but they won't let coaches go and directly interact with the kids at all. And most of the schools won't distribute materials/flyers to the kids, too much work/trouble even if the materials are provided. I tried that and was told that at 1 school they just dump the materials in the trash can, don't even try to get it out.
That leaves standing in the cafe looking for candidates. But when you are an off-campus coach (who happens to sit in an office in the library), and you don't have anyone on staff that is on-campus, it limits what can be done. The guy that took over for me was on-campus and got 6-8 kids to come out, so it is valuable.
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Post by option1 on Nov 11, 2019 18:10:45 GMT -6
Middle School - CA - Can't have contact with them until they have graduated from 8th grade. Undue influence. The AD's can go and have generic sports talks and take names for interest lists, but they won't let coaches go and directly interact with the kids at all. And most of the schools won't distribute materials/flyers to the kids, too much work/trouble even if the materials are provided. I tried that and was told that at 1 school they just dump the materials in the trash can, don't even try to get it out. That leaves standing in the cafe looking for candidates. But when you are an off-campus coach (who happens to sit in an office in the library), and you don't have anyone on staff that is on-campus, it limits what can be done. The guy that took over for me was on-campus and got 6-8 kids to come out, so it is valuable. What? Bro, that reads pretty sad. Try personal letters. "Dear Swingin' ****, or not" hope to see you at our spring meeting... |
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Post by Coach Bennett on Nov 13, 2019 6:33:53 GMT -6
Flag football after school...open to any and all.
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Post by CS on Nov 13, 2019 18:22:52 GMT -6
The best recruiter is a well run program that the kids you currently have will sell to their buddies and you will retain more.
I have gotten kids to come out just by gaining a relationship with them but I have only had like 1 of them pan out. Some quit after a little while or just plain couldn’t play. The kids know who needs to be playing and will pressure them to come out
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Post by klaby on Nov 15, 2019 9:24:14 GMT -6
Middle School - CA - Can't have contact with them until they have graduated from 8th grade. Undue influence. The AD's can go and have generic sports talks and take names for interest lists, but they won't let coaches go and directly interact with the kids at all. And most of the schools won't distribute materials/flyers to the kids, too much work/trouble even if the materials are provided. I tried that and was told that at 1 school they just dump the materials in the trash can, don't even try to get it out. That leaves standing in the cafe looking for candidates. But when you are an off-campus coach (who happens to sit in an office in the library), and you don't have anyone on staff that is on-campus, it limits what can be done. The guy that took over for me was on-campus and got 6-8 kids to come out, so it is valuable. WTH??? Can't speak to middle school kids in your own district??? That's crazy! |
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Post by hsrose on Nov 15, 2019 10:39:14 GMT -6
klaby - Yep, can't do it. Small rural school, 2 middle schools, next HS is 15 miles away. The kids are coming to the school, but still can't talk with them. The reason is that at a previous school there were 5 high schools in the city, same district, and 9 middle schools. Kids could go to any school as long as their was room. So going to a middle school then could be undue influence. Big cities, yeah, that makes sense. Rural, nope, stupid rule.
The only meeting we got was when the HS did the parent night when the parents and kids toured the school. They could come by the booths and sign up for FFA or cheer or football. But we couldn't recruit or anything, could not approach kids, they had to come to us. It's weird, but that's how they 'met' the rules.
I was the rules coordinator at a youth program when I started. The admin/operations side of the rule book was 2x as large as the football rule book. And I quickly found out that every single rule in there was because some coach did something to get an advantage so they had to add a rule about it. Same here. Somewhere in our CA past coaches were recruiting the middle schools so they put this rule in to prevent that.
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Post by veerwego on Nov 21, 2019 10:14:00 GMT -6
We sent out a recruiting letter yesterday to about 90 kids we have identified with the help of our players. Plan to sent one to them every week from a different coach on staff for the next 8 weeks too. Looking at having a saturday in late Jan where we invite them to the school to play b-ball and dodge ball and ping pong and have pizza. Try to make some connections.
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Post by cfoott on Jul 31, 2024 8:40:09 GMT -6
Middle School - CA - Can't have contact with them until they have graduated from 8th grade. Undue influence. The AD's can go and have generic sports talks and take names for interest lists, but they won't let coaches go and directly interact with the kids at all. And most of the schools won't distribute materials/flyers to the kids, too much work/trouble even if the materials are provided. I tried that and was told that at 1 school they just dump the materials in the trash can, don't even try to get it out. That leaves standing in the cafe looking for candidates. But when you are an off-campus coach (who happens to sit in an office in the library), and you don't have anyone on staff that is on-campus, it limits what can be done. The guy that took over for me was on-campus and got 6-8 kids to come out, so it is valuable. MAN! This is my exact situation right now. It is extremely difficult to try and get the kids transitioning from MS to HS to come out to summer workouts/practice, especially since neither myself nor my coaches are on campus. Like pushing 1,000 lb. up hill. Things I'm contemplating for this year is hustling them at our orientation day. For next year, showing up at their MS flag football games, inviting them out to a MS Clinic/7v7 during the first week of summer. See what I can drum up. |
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Post by mrcoachklein on Jul 31, 2024 10:38:24 GMT -6
We're a small K-12 school, 90% of our kids will be in the same building from age 6 til they graduate, so we don't have to worry about other schools influencing kids, or rules on contacting kids early. But a couple years ago we were seeing issues with 8th graders not going out for freshmen football. We'd have 15-20 8th graders, and barely 11 freshmen. We started bringing them to a Thursday practice, meal, and pregame meeting towards the end of the high school season, after their JH season was over.
On Thursday nights we have a late walk through practice (1.5 hours), then the kids shower and we go straight to our team meal at a church basement across the street prepared by the senior parents. At the team meal, 8th graders would sit with the seniors and we made sure they got fed first and treated well. After team meal the whole team (including the 8th graders) comes back to our locker room where we have our pregame meeting. Our Thursday night meetings have taken on a life of their own, its our kids favorite part of the week. The kids yell, chant, have competitions, and do whatever for about 10 minutes, then coaches come out and we go over our team and individual goals that we hit the week before and hand out stickers for them. Our head coach gives his pregame talk, we talk about logistics for the game coming up, and then assuming we won the previous week, watch a highlight tape for that game. The 8th graders are there for all of it, and several have told us in the last 2 years that's the reason they decided to stay out for football
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