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Post by bulldogoption on Nov 13, 2007 11:47:02 GMT -6
Would you agree or disagree that, for the majority, a kid's homelife has the biggest impact on his career in athletics?  ? |
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Post by wingt74 on Nov 13, 2007 12:00:16 GMT -6
Ya know...my three most aggressive, dominant defensive players, all come from households of divorce families. Maybe, my duty as a coach is to...nevermind.  But seriously, I think a lot of kids have a level of aggression built into them because they have a rough home life. Now at the same time, those kids can screw around at practice, talk back, have attitude problems with you, etc. |
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Post by coachbdud on Nov 13, 2007 12:03:07 GMT -6
i have noticed that the kids with good home lives are much more committed to the team and requirements. Not necesaarily saying they dont come from divorced homes, but whichever parent or parents they are with have instilled the values of hard work and dedication.
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Post by bulldogoption on Nov 13, 2007 12:46:38 GMT -6
I don't necessarily think that's true. We all know a kid "who's made it" from a bad situation. Depends on the kid and their internal drive. We've got a kid right now....Mother was a prostitute, doesn't know his father, mother doing life without patrol for murder. Kid lives with his grandmother who gets federal child support, they are poor as dirt and he doesn't always get to eat. Great kid. 4.0 student, teachers love him to death, he is our hardest worker, was voted as a captain as a junior. He told me, no way would his kids grow up as he has. Grades are going to get him where he wants to go. This kid will be successful, I garuntee it...unless he gets killed on the streets before he has a chance. dc -- that sounds like a hell of a situation, and I agree we all can think of exceptions, but for the majority of kids does the homelife make the difference? I speculate we don't ever get to see the majority of kids with the messed up homelives because sports aren't part of their world. |
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Post by dubber on Nov 13, 2007 12:59:54 GMT -6
This is kind of like trying to find the "absolute" offensive scheme that works everytime.
I've had kids from nuclear families that could date my daughter whenever I get one
I've had kids from shattered homes where I would do the same
Likewise, I've had a bunch of {censored} heads......from every extreme and inbetween.
This is a poor indicator of the type of kid you will have, IMO.
Now, kids who have experienced responsibility and adversity in their life------those are the ones I want.
The farm kids, the kids taking care of their little brothers because Mom's drunk by 4:00, the kid who has to work for his gas money, etc.-----------THOSE are the kids I want.
Any kid who is pampered, coddled, and continually have their behaviour excused by their parents (broken home or not)------those are the kids that make you go home and drink
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Post by eickst on Nov 13, 2007 13:13:33 GMT -6
------those are the kids that make you go home and drink You need an excuse to drink!? |
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Post by brophy on Nov 13, 2007 13:14:17 GMT -6
1) Genetics - plays the biggets impact in how far a career lasts. The turd that is 6'5", 205lbs, and runs a 4.3........is DI no matter what he does. You can't coach 'nature'. Those kids are the ones you know they are DI by the time they are 15....you don't have to guess.
2) Work Habits - Determine your future, you can be gifted but lazy.....the guy that works hard for it with self-discipline will prolong his athletic ceiling
3) Home Life - You can have #1 & #2 squared away, but it is only a matter of time before #3 catches up with you to provide a host of encouragement/distractions and good/ bad influences in your life. A good one will raise your expectations, a bad one will lower your expecations of life performance.
For as many horrible family lives you see, there are 1,000 that are sabotaged by it.
You can have a great homelife getting you into great camps and supporting your efforts, but if you're 5'6" and 5.0 40...you ain't going that far.
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Post by bulldogoption on Nov 13, 2007 13:26:16 GMT -6
The farm kids, the kids taking care of their little brothers because Mom's drunk by 4:00, the kid who has to work for his gas money, etc.-----------THOSE are the kids I want. My argument in support of homelife as in indicator would be that we will either never see these kids at all, OR we will end up losing them because they just don't have the support at home. |
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Post by juice10 on Nov 13, 2007 13:39:23 GMT -6
AMEN!
I don't believe that you can solely say that a good homelife = good career, but in most cases it can't hurt either. Good rounded families may offer more opportunities for their child to move on after high school, financial and family support. Where as a child with less fortunate circumstances, may not get to go to a camp or help with the financial burden of college.
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Post by dubber on Nov 13, 2007 14:23:55 GMT -6
The farm kids, the kids taking care of their little brothers because Mom's drunk by 4:00, the kid who has to work for his gas money, etc.-----------THOSE are the kids I want. My argument in support of homelife as in indicator would be that we will either never see these kids at all, OR we will end up losing them because they just don't have the support at home. I argue it is not the state of the home life, but the attitude of the young man........how he has responded to his life experiences. I understand what you are saying, it is logical, but in my experience, it doesn't happen that way. Kids can find ways to get to football, regardless. Plenty of kids are gung-ho with 0 support from home. Does having a good home life help? yes sir However, I do not think it is the overriding factor...... But then again, I am not in your situation, I have not lived your experiences. just my opinion |
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Post by dubber on Nov 13, 2007 14:26:40 GMT -6
------those are the kids that make you go home and drink You need an excuse to drink!? I take any one I can get.............."Detroit Lions lost" use to be money for me, but that's changing............."ran out of beer" is a good one..........."I got some junk mail in my e-mail inbox".......................anything will do.................. |
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Post by brophy on Nov 13, 2007 14:45:29 GMT -6
having kids who need football more than football needs them?
yeah, sometimes that helps, but not always.
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Post by deaux68 on Nov 13, 2007 15:00:37 GMT -6
Pros and Cons with both of them.
I moved in with my grandmother when I was a sophomore and was basically raised by her and the rest of my immediate family. I had aunts and uncles around all the time. They were always at my games. There are always kids that come from broken homes that make good in life and in football. Most use it as fuel for their competitive fire.
Sometimes the Dad and Mom homes are the worst. Dad could be a jerk pushing for that "college scholarship". We've had several cases where Mom didn't want their son to play. Had a kid get hurt this year and his Mom made him quit. Also, made her son get a haircut after school cause he was in a wedding that year.
Yeah, some people just don't get it.
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Post by airman on Nov 13, 2007 19:37:57 GMT -6
Would you agree or disagree that, for the majority, a kid's homelife has the biggest impact on his career in athletics? ? define good home life? yes two parent families children seem to do will. however two parents do not need to be living together either, as long as both are equally involved in their lives. there are some married couples who actually have worse home lives then those who are divorced. watch the move HAVOC. I recommend the directors cut. |
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Post by bulldogoption on Nov 13, 2007 20:36:50 GMT -6
When the parent(s) act like parents, instead of children. They TRY to put their kid's needs first. They have their life somewhat together and model how to achieve things. They let their kids be kids instead of forcing them to grow up too fast either intentionally by being a JERK or unintentionally by acting like a kid themselves. |
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