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Post by Coach Bruce on Jun 4, 2007 6:40:47 GMT -6
What would you reccommend? Thanks.
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Post by lochness on Jun 4, 2007 7:13:33 GMT -6
We are a 2-back offense.
Against the 4-4, we like: FB Trap Iso Belly (Double Dive) Lombardi or Buck Sweep G Scheme stuff (playside guard kicks out the DE) Go Twins or slot and run weak (Weak Iso, Weak counter, Weak toss, etc.) Use 2 TE's sometimes Get a matchup on the OLB vs. your #2 receiver (usually a Z in the slot) Any "Cover 3" beaters that you have
...A lot of this depends on what kind of techniques the front is using. Are they a team that uses a "31" look, or do they all play "head up" and read?
Against the 5-3 we like:
Outside Zone or Stretch Lead G (G scheme with Iso action in the backfield) Belly (double dive) with Z in the wing position, blocking the SAM LB Fly Sweep to Z receiver Belly Option or Toss (fake dive up inside and either option or quick toss after fake) Anything with a slot or twins look (see above) Quick Passing game (quick slants, hitches, outs to WR's) Waggle Package Unbalanced (TE / Z / SE all on the same side...so like going twins with the TE over to the same side)
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Post by tvt50 on Jun 4, 2007 8:47:38 GMT -6
Something to get them out of that 8 man front. Also 3X1 formations will make them have to adjust to a 52 and 43.
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Post by easye17 on Jun 4, 2007 18:13:09 GMT -6
Spread em out with 2x2 and 3x1 and get them out of there comfort zone. I love playing those teams because if you line up in the I, they can play their style of football. If you spread the field and do somethings against them formation/motion wise, you can dictate to them. In our league, a lot of teams are trying to get away from the 4-4 because several teams are going to a more spread offense and the 4-4 just can't handle a lot.
We don't see much 5-2 either, much for the same reasons.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2007 19:35:22 GMT -6
Our league is what I jokingly refer to as small school football at it's finest--everyone runs some form of full-house backfield offense and 4-4 or 5-2 (not really 5-3) defense. Against the 4-4, I love the option game (Midline, ISV, OSV) plus fullback trap. Passing game wise, try to pick on those OLBs with cover three concepts like curl/flat. Spread them out (2 x 2) and pick on those backers as well.
Don't have as much experience against the 5-3, but generally against odd fronts I like traps (still only have to block a few defenders), sweep, and anything that will spread them out formation wise.
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Post by chewy on Jun 4, 2007 21:00:59 GMT -6
4-4 Inside Stuff C Gap is hard to crack Outside game to the 2 rec side for numbers
5-3 Throw the Freakin Thing!
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Post by los on Jun 5, 2007 5:40:50 GMT -6
The question might should be, do you wanna "see" the 44, 53 or 62 in their purest form?What kind of offense do you know best coach? If you like to spread it out, you should never see these defenses as they were intended to be run? We ran the dbl tight I and the pro I, cause thats what I knew and could teach the kids .We expected to see a balanced up form of either of these defenses and ran our basic plays to the most favorable locations, either built in weak spots(good blocking angles/bubbles) or player mismatches. Again, it just depends on what you feel confident in running and teaching the players at your level to execute?
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Post by Coach Bruce on Jun 5, 2007 6:25:28 GMT -6
Well coach...we will run pro set, some spread and shotgun. The thing is, and I hate to say this because youth coaches already seem to be villified here, but even though we run these we still see the 4-4 and 5-3, 5-2.......they try to move folks around but after watching last year it is evident that the D coaches did not know how to adjust. It was also evident that our Offenseive side did not know how to take advantage of this....I don;t want that to happen while i am coaching. We have outstanding young men who deserve to win as much as anyone. I want to help them do this. I don;t mean to be annoying with all the questions, I just wanna learn .
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Post by los on Jun 5, 2007 7:42:59 GMT -6
I spent most of my time coaching youth/ms kids also coach bruce. I agree, its a different game strategically,than the higher levels. We had little scouting, no game film of future opponents, really very little idea of what we would face from week to week till the game was underway. So, our main objective in practice(besides basic fundamentals), was #1.- "learn to do what we do well", or learn to execute the few plays we had "very well", against the few possible fronts/coverages we expected to see? If you use the "toolbox" analogy, we had a small tool box with just the basic necessitys, (big hammer=inside power game, small hammer=inside counter game, big screwdriver= outside sweep, small screwdriver= boots and reverses, and a few pairs of pliers=assorted playaction passes to zones in range of our qb's/tb's arms, lol!) #2.- Then, try to be flexible enough in your thinking, to take advantage of any "mistakes" the defense may make by misalignment,(not always an exact science, lol!) Hope this helped you some?
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Post by Coach Bruce on Jun 5, 2007 19:42:43 GMT -6
Excellent coach!!!
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Post by dubber on Jun 5, 2007 21:55:37 GMT -6
how do most teams adjust to your 2 X 2?
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