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Post by airman on Aug 1, 2007 13:38:52 GMT -6
the raise to national spotlight has brought a investigation into the hoover program. centers around the usual, fixing grades and the coach having a extramartial affair.
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Post by spreadattack on Aug 1, 2007 14:33:17 GMT -6
fixing grades and the coach having a extramartial affair. What kind of investigation is this? Fixing grades is a rule violation; having an affair would just break some collective moral code. I suppose most of these guys have clauses in their contracts about not doing anything that would reflect poorly on the team and school (which just gives school authorities discretion to fire you for whatever reason) that wouldn't be the type of thing that warrants an "investigation." Anyway, who is conducting this "investigation" into those two disparate things? A school can't get put on probation or forfeit games because its rooster strayed from the henhouse.
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Post by airman on Aug 1, 2007 15:00:23 GMT -6
it was in the usa today on 7-29-07 edition.
several teachers complained that grades were changes of 2 players by non teachers. a former federal judge is looking it.
possible pressure to influence teacher to change grades
possible management and control issues of the hoover football program.
the principal was let go and he sent out information as he was told by the superintendent propst was untouchable and to turn a blind eye any violations.
former principal has emails regarding the affair.
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Post by spreadattack on Aug 1, 2007 17:25:18 GMT -6
I have no qualms if this thread isn't allowed to remain open as it's all very gossipy, but here's the link: www.usatoday.com/sports/preps/2007-07-29-hoover-investigation_N.htmLooks like the principal was the fall guy for the school's problems and, on his way out, fired some parting shots at the school management (they told me to let Probst run the show and "turn a blind eye" to the violations) and Probst personally (he had affairs with school employees). The school employee part, I will admit, would be a no-go. To clarify, however, the federal judge does not appear to be investigating Probst's personal life. Here are the areas he is investigating: - Grade changes by employees who are not teachers. •Possible pressure on teachers to influence or change grades. •Possible inappropriate preferential treatment of athletes. •Possible problem areas in management and control of the Hoover football program. Anyway, most of us don't quite have the clout to have that kind of ill influence, but it certainly can serve as a warning to even the most ambitious of us.
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Post by airman on Aug 1, 2007 17:30:49 GMT -6
I have no qualms if this thread isn't allowed to remain open as it's all very gossipy, but here's the link: www.usatoday.com/sports/preps/2007-07-29-hoover-investigation_N.htmLooks like the principal was the fall guy for the school's problems and, on his way out, fired some parting shots at the school management (they told me to let Probst run the show and "turn a blind eye" to the violations) and Probst personally (he had affairs with school employees). The school employee part, I will admit, would be a no-go. To clarify, however, the federal judge does not appear to be investigating Probst's personal life. Here are the areas he is investigating: - Grade changes by employees who are not teachers. •Possible pressure on teachers to influence or change grades. •Possible inappropriate preferential treatment of athletes. •Possible problem areas in management and control of the Hoover football program. Anyway, most of us don't quite have the clout to have that kind of ill influence, but it certainly can serve as a warning to even the most ambitious of us. fame will get you it you let it. I am not saying he is guilty or not. just look at the hollywood types. they fall from grace all the time. I can not even imagine the pressure to win he must have. winning a championship say every 3 years might cost him his job.
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Post by deaux68 on Aug 2, 2007 10:23:51 GMT -6
One of the grades in question was supposedly the changing of a high 70 something to a B.
We've all seen this happen, especially to help a kid out. Heck I know guys that would give passing grades just so he wouldn't have the kid in class again. Sad I know.
I'm not defending Hoover, cause I do think they bend the rules. They have been on top for awhile though, and the MTV stuff doesn't help. Someone was bound to take some shots at them.
I know the DT that signed with Alabama isn't going to make it. I believe he is taking the JuCo or Prep School route. I would guess that he was one of the grades in question.
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Post by brophy on Aug 2, 2007 10:36:49 GMT -6
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Post by airraider on Aug 2, 2007 10:45:40 GMT -6
One of the grades in question was supposedly the changing of a high 70 something to a B. We've all seen this happen, especially to help a kid out. Heck I know guys that would give passing grades just so he wouldn't have the kid in class again. Sad I know. I'm not defending Hoover, cause I do think they bend the rules. They have been on top for awhile though, and the MTV stuff doesn't help. Someone was bound to take some shots at them. I know the DT that signed with Alabama isn't going to make it. I believe he is taking the JuCo or Prep School route. I would guess that he was one of the grades in question. there has been rumors here of some head coaches in smaller rural towns actually going into the computer system and changing players grades. This comes from a good coaching friend of mine who coached under this guy.. This friend of mine is a very good American History teacher and prides himself on being the best he can be.. he WILL not cut corners for anyone.. well one of the star players made an F in his class but the HC changed it to a C.. He quit as soon as that year was over.
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Post by wingman on Aug 2, 2007 21:49:31 GMT -6
It's one thing if the teacher made a high 70 a B-. TOTALLY different if someone on the outside did it. You'd get fired for that here. One of those North-South differences.
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