CoachJ
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Post by CoachJ on Aug 7, 2007 11:03:28 GMT -6
On another site (unrelated to coaching) we are having a debate over what makes a great QB. The frame of reference is College QBs.
Candidate A
Multi year 1,000 rushing, 1,000 passing QB (very good accomplishment) 4 year starter, very successful team. Biggest problem is his career completion pct. is 48%.
Candidate B
Multi year 2500+ passer, about 300 runner for 3 seasons. Completion % is 65%, very successful team. Biggest problem is he isn't real mobile, all of his yards rushing are scrambles.
So are both great QBs, without qualifiers? (such as option QB, or pocket passer).
Let me know your thoughts.
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Post by easye17 on Aug 7, 2007 11:11:39 GMT -6
The best qb is the guy who leads the team and wins for you.
In the example, obviously two different offensive styles so in each they are great numbers.
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Post by wingt74 on Aug 7, 2007 12:07:58 GMT -6
Depends on your offense and your definition of "great". Both can be deemed by football "experts" as great.
Me personally, I'll take Candidate B as long as I have at least 1 other skill position player that is a stud.
If I have no other studs, give me A.
"Great" is playmaker and leader. Both players fall in those categories though.
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Post by fbdoc on Aug 8, 2007 12:07:58 GMT -6
I'd say candidate B. His net yards are more and he's more efficient as a passer. The fact that he has positive rushing stats, even on scrambles, means he is athletic enough to avoid the sack which is usually a problem with immobile QB's. The intanglible factors of leadership and Winning cannot be underestimated, but just going on the numbers, candidate B is a clear winner.
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Post by headlylemar on Aug 8, 2007 12:11:09 GMT -6
top qualities?
Leadership
Decision-making
Athleticism
The rest is icing, but those three are paramount.
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Post by coachcb on Aug 8, 2007 12:14:43 GMT -6
Just based on the numbers, I'd take the scrambler.
Having an agile, fast QB adds a whole other dimension to an offense; being able to run option well puts people in a serious bind. His passing numbers aren't half bad either. Yes the completion percentage is low, but I'd probably write that off to him throwin deep a lot on PA stuff.
I'd rather be able to run an effective option attack versus versus an Air Raid game with a strong arm QB. But then again, that's personal preference based on my the methodology that fits my philosophy.
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CoachJ
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Post by CoachJ on Aug 8, 2007 13:45:49 GMT -6
Just based on the numbers, I'd take the scrambler. Having an agile, fast QB adds a whole other dimension to an offense; being able to run option well puts people in a serious bind. His passing numbers aren't half bad either. Yes the completion percentage is low, but I'd probably write that off to him throwin deep a lot on PA stuff. I'd rather be able to run an effective option attack versus versus an Air Raid game with a strong arm QB. But then again, that's personal preference based on my the methodology that fits my philosophy. They both are very good QBs. People have trouble calling candidate A a good college QB because he cannot throw the ball very well. They don't take into account systems because for the most part they are fans and don't think about it. |
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