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Post by gulfcoastoffense on May 10, 2007 12:31:35 GMT -6
I followed a coach to a school where he got the HC job. He has named me the OC. Spring is over and he installed simple bread and butter plays. Belly, Sweep, Trap, Iso, Slant, Hitch, Fade and 1 play action. Had the inside zone in, but we scratched it. Now, Im trying to put together a playbook for the fall. The biggest problem I have ran across is that we have no identity. I dont know what kind of offensive team we can be. The last 2 years as OC, I have tweaked systems, borrowed from others, etc. Done everything from 1 back, to I back, to split backs, gun, under center, etc. Now, we have toyed with some no huddle. Not a shotgun, spread, hurry up, no huddle offense. Just no huddle regular tempo. With the philosophy I have on offense, which is that of a West Coast nature, I am having a hard time seeing how the no huddle will fit into the offense. We are talking 95% no huddle. At a brand new place, installing a brand new system with kids who were in the straight T last year, is this going to be a S.O.B to try and do?
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Post by tog on May 10, 2007 12:40:36 GMT -6
establish why you want to use no huddle
then figure out the rest
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Post by coachaldridge on May 10, 2007 12:51:35 GMT -6
You can no huddle any offense if you deem it a benefit to the team. We went no huddle last year for the first time and learned a lot. We are spread. If you decide it is a positive for you, then just decide how you will communicate it to the players on the field. We are going to have 3-4 tempo changes this year that we can switch back and forth from by words/signals.
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Post by airraider on May 10, 2007 13:08:47 GMT -6
The main thing is to establish what your goal for the offense is. Identify your key concepts and use those as building blocks. I am just about to wrap up spring at my new school who has ran the option for the last 3 years out of the double slot formation. We are now basing out of empty 3x2 and all gun. We have looked very good during the spring so far and will have our scrimmage next week. The key was having a very simple yet complex (  ?) system that you can have in place that will allow you to do anything you want without screwing up something you already taught. once my kids understood all of the formations, motions, shifts, routes, passing concepts, and running plays.. then we could do anything from any formation. Of course my whole offense hasnt been put in yet, but there is a large portion on the table as of now. This is an inner city school and they have had only 1 winning season in the last 10 years. Were on a 45 game losing streak back in the 90's. |
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Post by khalfie on May 10, 2007 15:42:12 GMT -6
Piece of cake...
The best thing is that you've narrowed down your playing calling to 8 plays...
Those puppies can be memorized, jazzed up with formations and motion... and all of a sudden, it looks like you a 50 play playbook... that is memorized with your no-huddle...
I like it... I really like it!
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2007 15:48:45 GMT -6
Coach, last season our identity was that we were "multiple". We only had 5-6 different run concepts and 5-6 pass concepts, but we ran them out of Power I, I, Trips, Trips with a TE, Offset I, Offset I Weak, and probably a couple more I'm forgetting!!
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Post by coachcb on May 10, 2007 15:51:16 GMT -6
Whatever you have installed, no huddle or not, make sure you have s system of plays that work off of one another.
For example, when we ran SBV with a no huddle we limited ourselves to ISV, OSV, quick pitch, quick dive, an offtackle power and a couple PAs.
We lined up at the LOS and I looked to see what the defense was doing. When I saw that the force player was lined up right on on the TE, it was time to go with quick pitch, if he off the LOS, we ran OSV and off tackle power. If they were giving is 1 tech DT and a 6 tech DE, we ran ISV.
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Post by phantom on May 10, 2007 16:17:51 GMT -6
I followed a coach to a school where he got the HC job. He has named me the OC. Spring is over and he installed simple bread and butter plays. Belly, Sweep, Trap, Iso, Slant, Hitch, Fade and 1 play action. Had the inside zone in, but we scratched it. Now, Im trying to put together a playbook for the fall. The biggest problem I have ran across is that we have no identity. I dont know what kind of offensive team we can be. The last 2 years as OC, I have tweaked systems, borrowed from others, etc. Done everything from 1 back, to I back, to split backs, gun, under center, etc. Now, we have toyed with some no huddle. Not a shotgun, spread, hurry up, no huddle offense. Just no huddle regular tempo. With the philosophy I have on offense, which is that of a West Coast nature, I am having a hard time seeing how the no huddle will fit into the offense. We are talking 95% no huddle. At a brand new place, installing a brand new system with kids who were in the straight T last year, is this going to be a S.O.B to try and do? One thing that I've learned over the years is that everything that you do- every drill, every practice segment, every play, every blitz, every coverage- must have a purpose. If you have a clear purpose for going no-huddle then go for it. If not but you have a vague feeling that you like it then shelve it, research it more next offseason, and maybe put it in next year. If you can't find a real reason then you put it on the huge pile of really cool stuff that just doesn't fit your system and pass on it. |
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Post by fbdoc on May 10, 2007 19:10:42 GMT -6
Phantom makes the definitive statement. WHY are you doing this? Look at the skills of your players and the strengths of your coaches. Then, put both groups is positions to be successful. Anything else is just "grab bagging" at ideas that sound good at a clinic or on this board, rather than developing a system that works for you and the players.
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Post by easye17 on May 10, 2007 21:30:41 GMT -6
This is piggy backing off of phantom and some others, but figure out what you want to do and what kind of offense you want to be, and then build from there. If no huddle is it, then great. Figure what you want to be and do it - if it has a purpose.
The worst thing you can do on offense is hodge podge it. My first year as an OC I had a head coach that was a defensive guy and he wanted to run all kinds of plays that killed his defense over the years. It wasn't an offensive system, it was what had hurt him. He didn't listen to his offensive coaches and the result was predictable. Since, we've done what we thought was best and kept working it, which eventually included the no huddle.
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Post by gulfcoastoffense on May 10, 2007 22:15:27 GMT -6
Thanks for all the input. The reason I like it is this. Say we huddle 7 1/2 yards from the ball and run 60 plays in a game. Thats saving our linemen from running 900 yards a game. I have my system down. A good 3 step game, a few intermediate routes, belly, power, trap, sweep, blast (manning the inside zone!) and play actions off power, sweep, ctr trey and blast. Thrown in a couple screens as well. Up to 16 formations as of now, and can run 99% of everything out of all formations. Using some motions, and a little formation shifting as well. After watching a team go no huddle all night in their spring game tonight, I understood it more. I actually talked to their OC last week about the no huddle. He runs a very similar offense that I will be doing and no huddle seemed to work for his kids. He is in a very similar situation as well, except the fact he has been there a while and this will be our first year at this school.
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Post by tog on May 11, 2007 5:36:52 GMT -6
make sure your offense is adaptable to the talent on hand
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?) system that you can have in place that will allow you to do anything you want without screwing up something you already taught.
