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Post by lionhart on Nov 13, 2007 21:39:29 GMT -6
heres my situation gentlemen.... im the oc at a h.s which has been awful for quite a while. i came last year and installed spread gun stuff and we have been competetive. (not alot of wins, but clearly we are improving.) problem is that there a a few fomer football coaches in the building and around the district who would love to see us fail. so they criticize every aspect of what we do... especially our offense because it is something "new" that theve never seen before. both the principal and superintendent have come to us and inquired as to why we are in the shotgun so much, why cant we just line up in the "I", etc. now ive explained it many ways, but i thik they just dont understand it.... so they dont like it. what i need is for you spread gun guys to give me some reasons why YOU choose to be in the gun. ill be getting called in to talk with the principal soon and would LOVE to have some new ideas ready when he asks me why we are in the gun so much. i mean, for any football person, its easy to explain.. but these guys are just lost. any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by coachnichols on Nov 13, 2007 22:02:12 GMT -6
Let me start by saying I'm no expert ;D...that said, I'm in the gun because... - it's easier on the QB (his back is never to the defense, he doesn't have to be taught to take traditional drops, his coverage reads are a little easier from the shotgun position, etc.)
- I like the zone read possibilities out of the gun, which gives the QB a lot more leeway and gives us the opportunity to be in the spread
- going off the last one...spread allows us to create match ups in space versus defenses/defenders who have better personnel than we do
- gun gets the QB that much farther from the rushers if your Oline isn't good at anything except getting the QB killed (I know, this one's kind of pessimistic, but we've all been there at some point)
- it gives me more options to run the QB and H and to work the option game and the zone
- finally, I'd rather have my guys working in space than line up and try to smash the defense into submission (pro I mentality) because I don't have the OLine to accomplish this
I don't know if that helps, but there it is. That's what's floating around in my head right now for better or worse! |
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Post by coachwoody on Nov 13, 2007 22:04:35 GMT -6
First of all the spread offense is more than a formation. It is a philosophy. The school I am at has had the same problem. Everyone downgraded the offense at first but when we set the single game scoring record and the season scoring record in ten games previously held by the team that made it to the Quarterfinals the only complaining came when we lost in the playoffs. Of course they said if we were in the "I" we would have won, If we were in the "I" we would not have been in the playoffs. My idea about the Spread is being able to attack defenses from different angles that are not created by the "I" or wing-t. You make the corners shorter and easier to get on the edge while at the same time opening up the middle. That is just in the run game not even including the pass game. Shorter QB has a definite advantage in the gun.
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Post by dubber on Nov 13, 2007 22:10:38 GMT -6
. both the principal and superintendent have come to us and inquired as to why we are in the shotgun so much, why cant we just line up in the "I", etc. now ive explained it many ways, but i thik they just dont understand it.... . And they won't. We can give you a novel on the "whys" of going spread, but I'd venture to say that won't help. This kind of stuff pisses my off to no end. Idiots who have no clue telling you how to run your team-------I've said this before, but this is the exact reason I am leaving the high school ranks. I flat out refuse to listen to it. What the hell do the principal and super know about football? Coach, this sounds like a bad situation. Unless your staff really turn it around and become "unfireable", you are always behind the 8-ball with these yahoos. Give them your reasons, address the people going behind your back, and tell the principal and super that you were hired to coach football.................they weren't. This may make things worse, but the alternative to not standing up for yourself is NOT worth it IMO. |
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Post by jraybern on Nov 13, 2007 22:26:33 GMT -6
I agree with all of the things above. My main reason for going to the spread is to give the QB just a little more time and space versus blitz, and probably the main reason, EVENTUALLY a receiver is going to beat a corner and you can score. We won 6 more games and scored 10 less points in one game than the team scored all last season by going to the spread. I don't get very much complaining. And truth be told, we ran the ball probably 70-80% of the time, we just gave our athletes space to do it in. We went under center once all season. Our QB never took a snap from under center in practice. We did it one time in a game to take a knee. The next week we just took a knee from the gun - I liked it better because some hero can't come flying through there hitting the QB.
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Post by spartancoach on Nov 14, 2007 8:04:11 GMT -6
All of the above.
Also, the spread really allows you to put D in conflict and take what it is giving. Can't cover 4 receivers without either leaving only 6 in the box (opening the zone read, veer, midline game) or playing man (opening the "rub" and vertical passing game).
Also, agree that you will never explain it to a bunch of non-football people. Unfortunately, the only way to get the naysayers off your back is to win.
However, since you apparently do not have a choice but to engage in this useless exercise:
1. Need a dominate line excel at I football. Spread gun allows you to be less predictable and attack every part of the field.
2. Need a dominant TB to excel at I football. Spread allows you to spread the ball around.
3. Spreading the ball around gets more players invested in the system.
4. If you have a QB that can read defenses (and an OC that can teach the reads), there is always a soft spot in the D to attack.
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