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Post by sls on Jul 24, 2007 13:56:32 GMT -6
I love football, loved being an assistant coach, and love being a head caoch!
I just had to fire an assistant coach. He has been at 1 summer workout out of 27. I fired him, his heart was not in it! I had to do it for the program, but I still feel like a low life.
If you are reading this post, and you are not sold out for your team, do the school, program, and coaching staff a favor and get out!!!
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Post by fbdoc on Jul 24, 2007 14:05:42 GMT -6
I'm assuming the former assistant knew in no uncertain terms that his presence was required to remain a member of your staff? If so, HE made the decision to leave your staff and you should not worry about it. On the other hand, If you merely wanted / hoped / wished him to be there but did not make it clear to him - that is another story. Did you have any discussions with him between practice #1 and practice # 26 to address his not being there?
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Post by phantom on Jul 24, 2007 14:12:43 GMT -6
I love football, loved being an assistant coach, and love being a head caoch! I just had to fire an assistant coach. He has been at 1 summer workout out of 27. I fired him, his heart was not in it! I had to do it for the program, but I still feel like a low life. If you are reading this post, and you are not sold out for your team, do the school, program, and coaching staff a favor and get out!!! Why do you feel bad? You did the guy a favor. |
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Post by sls on Jul 24, 2007 14:20:32 GMT -6
Yes he knew he had to be there.
Yes I talked to him on the phone at told him he had to come, the straw that broke the camel's back was he apologized for missing #17-#21 (#16 was the only one he was at) and said he would be back for #22 & #23. He did not show up or call to let me know why he could not be there.
In 4 years of being a head coach, I have fired 2 guys and demoted one. It does not get any easier!
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Post by schultbear74 on Jul 24, 2007 14:25:13 GMT -6
Missing what he'd missed- I'd say that you more than walked the extra mile.
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Post by sls on Jul 24, 2007 14:29:12 GMT -6
I love football, loved being an assistant coach, and love being a head caoch! I just had to fire an assistant coach. He has been at 1 summer workout out of 27. I fired him, his heart was not in it! I had to do it for the program, but I still feel like a low life. If you are reading this post, and you are not sold out for your team, do the school, program, and coaching staff a favor and get out!!! Why do you feel bad? You did the guy a favor. Just me I guess. I just want us to be a happy family!!!!! ;D |
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Post by touchdowng on Jul 24, 2007 17:18:34 GMT -6
sls
you are one patient HC
1 workout in 27? He was begging to be let go with his inaction.
Your team just got stronger when he walked out the door and hopefully, he will have learned something from your decision.
I've had to fire 3 over 20 years of being an HC. One was a friend - that was tough. He died in an accident last summer about five years after the fact - that didn't help my internal struggle (we are human). You stay in this long enough and you will be able to write a book on life's lessons.
Keep the faith!
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Post by ttowntiger on Jul 24, 2007 17:56:50 GMT -6
Don't worry about firing him coach. As long as someone is trying their best, it's tough to let them go, regardless if they are a good coach or not. But if they just don't care or clearly aren't trying very hard, good riddance to them. If this guy was any kind of man, he would have resigned before now. 1 out of 27 workouts is pathetic! Sends a real fine message to the kids, too. You gave this guy more than a fair chance to shape up. Don't feel bad at all about letting him go.
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Post by phantom on Jul 24, 2007 18:42:14 GMT -6
I wasn't kidding when I said that he did the guy a favor. Coaching's a hard life and if you don't love it it can be miserable. By not showing up over the summer, this guy proved that he doesn't love it. He's better off without it. He may not know it now but he is.
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Post by ttowntiger on Jul 25, 2007 17:52:06 GMT -6
Just out of curiosity coach. Was the guy understanding when you fired him? Or was he a jerk about it?
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Post by sls on Jul 25, 2007 20:09:26 GMT -6
It was a mixed reaction. He whined for a couple of minutes, but when I called him out about missing the last couple of days without a call after he said he would be here, he siad you are right that was wrong.
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Post by coachcoyote on Jul 25, 2007 23:41:28 GMT -6
Coach, It doesn't get any easier to let some one go as you stay around. Do what's good for the kids first. What was your former coach teaching your kids about commitment, hard work and responsibility? How can you preach that and allow him to do the opposite? You couldn't and you didn't. Smile and move on.
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Post by airraider on Jul 26, 2007 1:42:43 GMT -6
On another note.. which will make me post this as its own post..
How often do you require your guys to show up? Do they just show up to summer workouts just to benefit being there?
I recently worked for a HC who wanted the whole staff there everyday.. so it was like 6 of us there twice a day watching sometimes as little as 5 kids workout..
Another HC I worked for had a better system and each coach had "his week" and he would have to open the weightroom both morning and evening all week.. Then he would be off until his next time around.. and if you were one of the coaches dealing with the 7 on 7 twice a week every week then you were not in on the rotation..
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Post by coachcb on Jul 26, 2007 8:24:55 GMT -6
I have been around a few guys that just don't understand the commitment it takes to coach this sport. Good football coaches know that football doesn't end in the late fall; it's a year round deal. Great programs are really built during those off season workouts.
Honestly, if he couldn't give the kids 27 workouts(maybe 50 hours in 3 months) of his time over the summer, then the hell with him. Its hard to demand that the kids put in the time when your assistants won't do the same.
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Post by coachorr on Jul 26, 2007 8:39:24 GMT -6
This has been a great post, thank you for posting it. I just left a program (very nice man as an HC) where there were coaches who showed up the first day of two-a-days and then were gone after the last day. So, I know what you are saying.
I just got a job with my alma mater where I coached in the past. I was a little reluctant as it iwas where I started and I think some of those coaches see me as the young coach ten years ago. Long story short, I thought I was getting a teaching job at our rival within the district and I had a coaching job somewhat lined up.
Well, I ended up at a JH and my old school jumped all over me and got me there on there staff. Well, the last week I have been kind of on the fence. When the other coach called me yesterday and said that he in fact had a position for me (he is a great coach and person by the way he was just waiting on somethings to happen), I told him that I appreciated the offer, but I already had a position.
No regrets, I think you have to love football and love where you are at. Since Monday, I have already talked more football with this staff than I had all summer at the other place.
Thanks for the post, it just reaffirms that I need to be 100% focussed.
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Post by wildcat on Jul 26, 2007 8:54:23 GMT -6
Our HC takes a "football is what you make it" approach to the summer. He does not require assistants to be there but, if you ARE there, you are going to move up the "food chain" quickly.
I'm a good example of that...this is going to be my first season working for this coach and, because I have attended 90% of our football activities since the spring, it looks like I will start the season calling the varsity offense on Friday night.
His approach is basically to allow coaches to show up if they want but, if they don't, they are not going to get ANY input into the offense, defense, or special teams schemes once the summer starts.
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Post by sls on Jul 26, 2007 9:12:09 GMT -6
When I talk about workouts I mean an hour in the weight room and conditioning and an hour on the field for specific position work. When it is just the weight room I cover it and will ask guys to fill in when the wife needs me.
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Post by airman on Jul 26, 2007 13:31:30 GMT -6
this is all well and good to talk about. however the reality is some times you have to have a guy like this on your staff. I would rather have the extra coach during the season then in teh summer.
I was at a school which had let go of the on staff people who were not as excited to be a member of the coaching staff year round. they were good during the season but they wanted to have a life. well the new coach let these guys go. replaced them with nonstaff guys. well we found out that when nonstaff guys had to go on a business trip, we were short coaches.
it is a tough call. no easy answer.
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Post by fbdoc on Jul 26, 2007 13:37:44 GMT -6
On the other side of this issue, I just HIRED a QB coach today that I'm very excited about! This means our QB's will get a quality coach and I can go back to working with the O-line! Two-a-days start in 11 days!
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