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Post by raider7342 on Mar 7, 2007 11:16:29 GMT -6
which do you prefer. i used to go to clinics a good bit but have backed off some. don't feel i always get a lot from college coaches (small program, not enough time to do everything they talk about)
what do you guys prefer and why?
raider
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Post by flexspread on Mar 7, 2007 11:41:59 GMT -6
Clincs, because you can get some one on one time with coaches to clear up any questions that you have where if you watch a video and try to contact the coach in the video, there is a long wait period most of the time before getting an answer. I also like the variety you get at a clinic.
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Post by coachpat88 on Mar 7, 2007 11:46:02 GMT -6
personally for me its books... I like to take in as much information as possible and formulate my own answers. Sometimes clinics give you only the "flavor of the day" or they bring in some guy who coaches at the D-I or Pro level... they are great to listen to but they and you have a hard time translating it to your level
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Post by tvt50 on Mar 7, 2007 11:48:04 GMT -6
You can always rewatch the videos.
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Post by coachjd on Mar 7, 2007 12:47:36 GMT -6
I still go to my fair share of clinics, but I would rather purchase a good video on a topic that I want to research or learn about and watch it 2-3 times if I need to.
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Post by information on Mar 7, 2007 13:15:55 GMT -6
Any info is great....but I like vids.....you can watch over and over....with clinics...you better have great notes and even when you do 5-6 years later they might not translate as well as you would like...Old Books are the best...more detailed than the new books.
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Post by superpower on Mar 7, 2007 13:16:00 GMT -6
While I enjoy going to the clinics, I usually don't get much from them that is going to help me at our level. Since we don't have the size, speed, and talent that the featured speakers have in their video clips, we aren't likely to be as successful doing what they are doing. Likewise, I don't have a staff of fifteen coaches who can teach all the little things that are required if we want to implement what the NFL or college guys are speaking about. For me videos and books are more helpful. Having said all that, the internet (especially forums like this) are just as helpful for me as the clinics are.
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Post by CoachAc on Mar 7, 2007 13:36:51 GMT -6
I agree with Information, I learned alot more from the older books than newer books, videos or even clinics. The depth and detail that they go into is astounding, plus they are a heck of a lot cheaper than newer books,vids and clinics. Just my 2 cents tho
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Post by coachrji on Mar 7, 2007 13:49:39 GMT -6
Ditto on videos...Watch them over and over. Books are good for the same reason
Clinics are nice as long as you go to coaches that you can relate with such as HS coaches or Div III coaches.
If you can get one thing from all of the info a speaker presents then it is a success.
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Post by redandwhite on Mar 7, 2007 14:16:20 GMT -6
The problem with books and videos is there is a very wide gap between the good ones and the bad ones, and you don't rally know what you're going to get until you get it. It's very frustrating to receive a book or video and get little or nothing out of it. I prefer clinics because at least if something is not very good you can always find other coaches to talk to. The best is College Visits.
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Post by coachcalande on Mar 7, 2007 16:04:46 GMT -6
People learn different ways. This is why I produce dvd set with me at the white board diagramming nad explaining all of my plays and the details about my systems. I also write it all down in manuals/playbooks and even a drills manual. Then I also have clinics. At my clinics there are onstage demos, walk thrus, video break down, chalk talk and Q and A sessions...I want everyone to LEARN. I allow guys to video tape my clinics because I know they arent going to retain everything if they dont. The goal? that they are successful with my stuff. now, I also video tape the clinics and sell that too...goes perfectly with the manuals and system dvds. If they buy the whole package, ie, the system dvds, the manual, drills manual and the clinic dvds they have the best chance for success.
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Post by CVBears on Mar 7, 2007 16:45:47 GMT -6
I love them all! pros and cons to both though too.
Although, in a forced decision, I would say videos are the best over clinics because you can pause, rewind (or fast forward through useless stuff). Obviously you can do the same with books
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Post by phantom on Mar 7, 2007 18:00:55 GMT -6
The problem with books and videos is there is a very wide gap between the good ones and the bad ones, and you don't rally know what you're going to get until you get it. It's very frustrating to receive a book or video and get little or nothing out of it. I prefer clinics because at least if something is not very good you can always find other coaches to talk to. The best is College Visits. Without question visits are the best. Nothing beats talking one on one and having the opportunity to watch video. I also like clinics IF you have a chance to ask questions. That means that, to me, smaller clinics or on-campus clinics are best. I think that bigger clinics are a great way for younger coaches to get exposed to a lot of ideas. The socials are also a great chance to talk football with other HS coaches. |
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Post by coachcoyote on Mar 7, 2007 22:04:00 GMT -6
Coach Calande, My hat is off to you. You mentioned you sell your material in passing as opposed to hawking it. I wish more coaches were that way. Allowing video taping is great at your clinics. Too many guys who've moved to the next level, forget where they came from. Learning, getting the info, and sharing it are what we do. Pass it to the next guy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2007 10:23:29 GMT -6
I have gotten a lot of information over the years by reading the Nike Coach of the Year manuals that are printed every year. They print about 30 of the Nike clinic lectures from that years clinics across the nation and sell it in manual form. They now have a college speaker manual and a high school manual. Go to www.nikecoyfootball.com and look under Manuals 4 Sale. They include a link to some free lectures so you can see samples. |
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