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Post by spreadbone on Jan 21, 2008 8:47:25 GMT -6
When do u guys schedule to receive a copy of your opponent's game film? I currently work under a guy who does not value film and he schedules it the night of the game for a Saturday morning exchange. Is this the way most of u do it? I would think you'd want it earlier, but I don't know, I'm just an assistant now, and have never had to deal with this. I'd just like to hear what most of you have to say on this.
Thank you.
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Post by touchdowng on Jan 21, 2008 9:05:34 GMT -6
when you say he doesn't value it. does he not even look at it?
you haven't said how familiar he is with your league. maybe he only needs the film to reaffirm what he already knows.
how do you guys utilize the film? Really, that's the important thing.
Here's what we do. I'm sure you'll get other posts with great ideas.
We play on Friday nights
We set up an exchange Saturday AM with those we know who will give us a good film. We will send a scout if we don't have a trust level. Usually, we'll exchange AND we'll send a scout. This gives us 2 videos. We like to run our camera a little longer (from the time the QB enters the huddle) as we search for lots of things. We once timed a team in their huddle and we knew that if they spent an extra 3-5 seconds huddled, they were throwing. It was 100%. Anyway, back to your question.
Our DC burns a copy for me (HC/OC), our special team's coordinator, and our OLINE coach. We usually have those no later than Sunday - Usually Sat pm. Our O staff meets Sunday evening or Monday morning. We show the video to our kids on Monday following practice. We continue to view video looking for those mismatches. We will watch scout video up until the time we board our bus for our game.
We'll have quick video sessions with our starters during their lunch during the week (usually QB's and LB's) to keep getting our field leaders familiarized with the opponent.
We have a saying "the gameplan never rests" and our kids know that we will stay as focused as possible on this idea.
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Post by bluboy on Jan 21, 2008 10:10:10 GMT -6
We send our frosh coaches out to scout (most of us play Friday nights). By doing this, we have a copy ready to go for our Saturday A.M meeting. We only exchange films if our opponent asks for an exchange (we have to-league rule). If we have to exchange, we usually have the film by Sunday, and the head coach and I break down this film Sunday afternoon.
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Post by spreadbone on Jan 21, 2008 11:10:58 GMT -6
Our scouts aren't allowed to film the games, so that won't work, but they could do exchange on Fri. night I guess. No the hc now just looks at the film, he doesn't break it down or look for tendancies etc. (he's awful to be honest), but he's gone and hopefully I'm the nxt. in line to get the job. I'm just trying to cover all my bases in case I do get hired.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 18:34:16 GMT -6
At the places I've coached, we've exchanged Friday night or Saturday morning. Most of the grunt work is done by the coordinators on Sundays, so which day doesn't matter a whole lot.
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Post by clloyd on Jan 21, 2008 20:28:23 GMT -6
has anyone ever exchanged during the week before so that you can get an idea and only pick up one film on saturday to affirm what you have already viewed?
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Post by Tampa on Jan 22, 2008 5:55:42 GMT -6
We exchange the last 2 game films on Saturday morning. Scouts or anyone else associated with the program can not film an opponent legally. We can scout, but no film.
I don't know if exchanging film on Friday night would be beneficial to us. With our games on Friday nights and the logistics involved of trading films, we probably wouldn't get the film until 3am anyway.
Spreadbone, no offense, but when you write: "but he's gone and hopefully I'm the nxt in line to get the job. I'm just trying to cover all my bases in case I do get hired., it sounds like you're trying to find reasons to push the fella out the door. Hope I'm getting a wrong read.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2008 7:44:42 GMT -6
We have Game Film Solutions Conference Library so all our game films are uploaded to a host site and we can download any and as many films as we want.
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Post by Coach Huey on Jan 22, 2008 9:41:23 GMT -6
the last to stops - prior to this one - we would trade 2 games on wednesday the week before. then, scouts would pick up a copy of friday night's game while scouting. this allowed guys to have 2 games digitized in the computer and odk'd so that all we had to do on saturday morning was digitized/odk last night's game and then attach the data to each play.
now, we are using an internet conference library so we can get whatever games whenever. get the most recent game the night off or next morning, but all others are already in the computer and just need specific play data
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Post by midlineqb on Jan 22, 2008 23:59:48 GMT -6
We trade 2 DVDs on Sat. a.m., usually around 7:00 a.m. We bring the players in at 8:00 a.m. to look at Fri. game. They are gone usually by 9:00 to 9:30, then we watch our upcoming opponet's games as a staff to get a basis for our game plans. The HC/coordinators will meet Sun. p.m. and set game plan for Mon. practice.
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Post by toddniklaus on Jan 23, 2008 13:34:37 GMT -6
We trade over the internet the last two games. So after the game Friday night we have to upload the film right away and then send it out along with the previous weeks game. By conference rule it is suposed to on the website by 8 am ready for the other coaches to download
I was skeptical at first but I was very happy with the quailty and the ease of this process
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Post by spreadbone on Jan 23, 2008 14:42:39 GMT -6
Tampa, you don't know the man, I was born and raised around him and he is not a good person. I can't even begin to tell you how bad he treats kids. Anyhow, just to clarify.
Thanks for all the info. guys, I appreciate it.
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Post by Tampa on Jan 23, 2008 18:26:56 GMT -6
I hear ya Bone, and congrads on getting the Job. Know you're going to do it right.
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Post by clloyd on Jan 23, 2008 22:13:32 GMT -6
For the guys that exchange tape following the game on fridays, do the scouts just wait for the game tape to be copied?
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Post by spreadbone on Jun 11, 2008 8:34:31 GMT -6
For the guys that exchange tape following the game on fridays, do the scouts just wait for the game tape to be copied? bump |
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Post by coachsky on Jun 11, 2008 8:58:35 GMT -6
We are going to an online flim library this season. It should be interesting. All game film has to be up loaded by 8am on Saturday.
Both teams have to load their film of the game. That'll be nice to have a choice of two films.
We have had a coach in our league who is notorious about swapping inferior film. It's gotten to be a joke. They miss plays, they start the film after the snap, they go so wide it's hard to see much detail. It's ridiculous. He blames if on a stupid parent or kid filming. We are 99% sure that the film he trades is not the film he uses. He's a sly slimey jerk who thinks it funny.
He won't be able to pull that stuff anymore.
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Post by coachhortman on Jun 11, 2008 21:14:48 GMT -6
Coach,
I have done it both ways, Traded film on Sat morning as early as possible or I prefer to trade film on Fri night where I can make copies on dvd and put it into DSV for the other coaches that are coming in by 8 am. One asst coach waits for the coaches at the other school to make a copy after the game that he scouts or the asst coach gets my copy immediately after the game on dvd and goes to trade with the opposing coach. If it is a out of state game, we trade two films early in the week then FedEX or UPS friday's night game early Sat morning. I normally call the other coach on Tues to set up what films they want. Most coaches are very agreeable to that. If a school uses DSV, I try to get the coaches just to swap mini dvs for easier loading onto DSV.
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Post by kurtbryan on Jun 14, 2008 8:59:21 GMT -6
Our league has an agreement that worked very well in 2007:
We trade film 10 - 12 days out from our upgaming game with that opponent. So we have film in enough time to peek at it before the week of the game, etc.
Worked very well.
KB
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Post by bigwood33 on Jun 14, 2008 21:20:06 GMT -6
We exchange 2 films on Sat morning and make 3 copies of them. The offensive staff gets one, the defensive staff gets one and we keep one for a backup in case we have an issue with one of the copies. Then the fun begins. We break down tendencies on both sides of the ball and start to put together the game plan for the next week. We usually have most of the basics done by about noon. We have been together for a while and have a pretty good system down. We are usally finished by 3 or 4 on Sat afternoon.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 14, 2008 21:45:20 GMT -6
Our league has an agreement that worked very well in 2007: We trade film 10 - 12 days out from our upgaming game with that opponent. So we have film in enough time to peek at it before the week of the game, etc. Worked very well. KB I tried to get my last HC to push this policy into the district, but the "good ole boys" just were not progressive enough. Actually, I take that back, I don't think it was a progressive issue. I think it was a work issue. We had a reputation for being a very hard working staff. I guess other staffs thought that if we wanted it...we thought it would give US an advantage (they were right, we did think it would give us an advantage..but we also thought it was a good thing for the league. ) I think it is a good policy for GOOD coaches and GOOD staffs |
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