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Post by bigboo on Sept 10, 2018 14:11:43 GMT -6
High School coach started a freshman as quarterback. Senior players didn't agree so joined with their parents in protest. Said they would not play for him and wanted junior quarterback. After a couple of meetings and much social media the coach switched quarterbacks and created new offense to suit the junior. Coaching staff had nothing but praises for freshman and head coach told him the reason he wasn't playing was because the team wouldn't play for him. How would you have handled this situation?
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Post by blb on Sept 10, 2018 14:46:54 GMT -6
High School coach started a freshman as quarterback. Senior players didn't agree so joined with their parents in protest. Said they would not play for him and wanted junior quarterback. After a couple of meetings and much social media the coach switched quarterbacks and created new offense to suit the junior. Coaching staff had nothing but praises for freshman and head coach told him the reason he wasn't playing was because the team wouldn't play for him. How would you have handled this situation?
Was-is the freshman QB as good or better than the junior?
If so, that's rare.
But if he is, he should be playing.
How would I have handled it? At first team meeting before practice we told kids that if a younger player is as good as older one, the younger one plays.
So if you're an upperclassman - don't rest on your "laurels" and assume you're going to play just because you feel "it's your turn."
It is, or should be, a Meritocracy.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Sept 10, 2018 18:59:42 GMT -6
You’re setting a dangerous precedent. Essentially you’re saying mob rule out rules the coaching staff.
Today they’re telling you who your starting QB is. Next week what’s to stop them from telling you when they can and can’t practice, or what plays to call?
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Post by hunhdisciple on Sept 10, 2018 19:07:33 GMT -6
They don't have to play if they don't want to. Plain and simple.
I don't think you can give them that level of control.
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Post by 53 on Sept 11, 2018 9:00:10 GMT -6
I wouldn't have put the freshman at QB unless I thought he was better, so I wouldn't have gave a damn about the mob.
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Post by blb on Sept 12, 2018 7:18:16 GMT -6
Has there ever been a program anywhere that was successful when players and-or parents were allowed to be "in control"?
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Post by newhope on Sept 27, 2018 8:09:29 GMT -6
Fire me, but players and parents aren't going to decide who plays (neither is administration for that matter).
Those of us on this board can't tell you who should have been the starter to begin with, we aren't at practice, we don't know your personnel. But once that decision is made, it's the coaches who unmake it--no one else.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 27, 2018 11:57:07 GMT -6
Fire me, but players and parents aren't going to decide who plays (neither is administration for that matter). Those of us on this board can't tell you who should have been the starter to begin with, we aren't at practice, we don't know your personnel. But once that decision is made, it's the coaches who unmake it--no one else. Yup... We're having a similar issue right now as we have an athletic freshman QB who is an outstanding JV player. But, he's not at the same level as the starting senior. The kid is an athlete and can win games with his feet but so can the senior. Our HC has been getting texts from all kinds of people in the community demanding that we either a)play him at QB or b)play him at RB. We play the freshman at a slot WR spot and get him the ball here and there but the friggin' community is in an uproar over it. Our HC's response to the last text: "We're winning football games, we made the playoffs, we're moving the ball. If that's not enough, fire me." |
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Post by fantom on Sept 27, 2018 15:50:13 GMT -6
Fire me, but players and parents aren't going to decide who plays (neither is administration for that matter). Those of us on this board can't tell you who should have been the starter to begin with, we aren't at practice, we don't know your personnel. But once that decision is made, it's the coaches who unmake it--no one else. If it doesn't work you're going to get fired eventually so you might as well do it your way. |
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Post by 19delta on Sept 29, 2018 18:03:45 GMT -6
I can't imagine too many situations in which a freshman is better than a junior, especially at QB. If a coach is going to pull the trigger on a decision like that, that freshman had better be Peyton Manning.
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Post by carookie on Sept 29, 2018 18:58:32 GMT -6
I can't imagine too many situations in which a freshman is better than a junior, especially at QB. If a coach is going to pull the trigger on a decision like that, that freshman had better be Peyton Manning. I had a good buddy who was OC at a school coming into what was gonna be a good year for them. Before the season starts he replaces the Starting Jr. QB with a freshman. People were up in arms but he stuck with it. Frosh leads them to the state title game, ended up making it to D1 a few years later and making his colleges HOF, bounced around the arena league for a while. But like you wrote that is the exception to the rule |
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Post by carookie on Sept 29, 2018 19:02:20 GMT -6
Just to get some more context: do you have enough players to have played without the seniors? Not compete or win perse, but actually play? If the seniors actually walked would this force the other players to forfeit?
Is your job (teaching), predicated on you coaching; would not coaching cost you your teaching job?
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Post by klaby on Oct 10, 2018 12:34:51 GMT -6
Watching this play out kinda of with my kid's team(I coach at another school). Senior QB has 6 TD passes 7 INTs, the Senior Backup has 0 TDs and 3 INTs. Sophomore QB has 16 TD passes and 5 ints granted at JV level. Now the varsity is winning cause they have hogs up front and can run the ball...the one loss is because the other team sold out run, put 9 in the box and dared them to throw...they couldn't....so am I saying the players wont play for the younger kid, no in fact they want the younger kid to play, but I know the parents will freak, cause they are freaking at the JV level cause the sophomore didnt play youth with these kids he played at a rival org....even though he has 16 TD passes in 8 games. I am sure that coaches take into account politics when making decisions, but at some point integrity needs to take front an center. And letting politics dictate your roster always fails. ALWAYS
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