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Post by khalfie on Apr 16, 2007 13:32:55 GMT -6
Stud athlete... will be a Junior...
Has to go both ways...
6' 185... fast as death...
Played QB, last year, in spread... 0-9...
As a new coach coming in... he's introduced himself, made sure I knew he was the goods, and further has shown the leadership and intiative to step up as if he expects to be the QB this year... however, rumor has it, that he doesn't want to be the QB, though he hasn't indicated this to me in the least.
Has a rocket launcher for an arm... so much so, my major job will be to teach him touch...
However, we'll be a jet / Rocket team out of the Spread, with some Veer Option...
If I don't make him the QB... he can be a slot, #1 WR, TB, and even QB on some plays...
Or...
He could just be my QB, touching the ball every play, putting the defense on alert all of the time...
But again, talent falls off steeply, I think, after this kid...
What's easier to develop... another play maker, or a passer and distributor... who will also be asked to run the ball on occassion?
Where do you play this kid?
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 16, 2007 13:46:52 GMT -6
I would say play him at QB. Make the other team account for him on every play not as someone who might get the ball on every play, but who does get the ball on every play. If he's your most talented guy by far put the ball in his hands.
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Post by superpower on Apr 16, 2007 13:53:09 GMT -6
Sounds like a single wing tailback which is the equivalent of a QB in today's spread offenses. Spread them out and let him run, and when the defense commits to stopping the run, let him throw over the top.
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Post by tog on Apr 16, 2007 13:54:10 GMT -6
put him at position Q
tell him he would be more of a running back
and run all the same stuff you are talking about
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Post by los on Apr 16, 2007 14:01:07 GMT -6
If its gun spread you run khalfie, gotta have the best kid at qb to me, theres so much he can do there along with the 2nd best kid as the rb maybe? We struggled with the same offense for 4 seasons, by not having both the qb and rb as legitimate run threats, couldn't run the ball consistantly, which put a lot of pressure on the passing game, causing even more problems? So, my vote would be play him at qb, shore up the 2 back running game and work the rest of the guys as recievers, slots to run the rocket and jet(where blazing speed is not essential), etc...
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Post by ajreaper on Apr 16, 2007 14:52:25 GMT -6
1) I'd think first sit down with him and see where he see's himself playing and why. Sometimes they surprise you with where they want to play and why. And who knows you may find out right now you and he are basically on the same page- neither of you is very certain of where he plays.
2) find out what else you have- it's hard to figure out the puzzle when there's only 1 piece available to you now.
3) Ask him if he has a little brother who's coming up behind him;)
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Post by brophy on Apr 16, 2007 14:53:52 GMT -6
If he doesn't want to be quarterback and all that comes with it ( hands down choice )
Z / slot (and situational QB)
and
FS
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Post by groundchuck on Apr 16, 2007 15:37:06 GMT -6
If you put him somewhere besides QB will he touch the ball enough? Sounds like he is a gamebreaker and the more he can be a threat the better. I think you can teach him touch with his passing, especially since he will only be a junior. Remember he has another year left after to work on developing too.
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Post by jhanawa on Apr 16, 2007 15:46:47 GMT -6
QB, build the offense around him running it and throwing simple, high percentage passes.
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Post by CVBears on Apr 16, 2007 16:38:52 GMT -6
A kid that is a great runner with a lazer rocket arm...running spread offense...sounds like you have one heck of a QB on your hands coach.
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Post by khalfie on Apr 16, 2007 17:01:40 GMT -6
I'm not going to lie...
I get a little giddy just looking at him...
At first, it seemed like the no brainer... I'm a Spread Option guy... I know the rules, him and number 2 were going to be the little engine that could...
But I've been monkeying around with the rocket... if I got this kid on the corner with just an DB and an Safety to beat?
Also, in my 3x1 set... if he's 1 on 1... I've scaled the game down to my best two athletes... if they doubled him... everything else should open up...
But again... I'll have that threat in the spread anyway... 6 or less in the box... he should be able to do a lot of damage with his feet... they bring 7... I don't know if I'll have that other athlete to get that 1 on 1 advantage... and that's what scares me...
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Post by dubber on Apr 18, 2007 9:48:45 GMT -6
Big question here: can anyone else play Q?
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Post by flexspread on Apr 18, 2007 10:04:42 GMT -6
Keep him at QB, and run the heck out of option read plays with your # 2 athlete as your TB and your #3 as your Jet WR.
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Post by donaldduck on Apr 18, 2007 11:01:19 GMT -6
How about RB with a direct snap package in place? This kicked our ACE in the playoffs this year!
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Post by cqmiller on Apr 18, 2007 11:38:55 GMT -6
QB...if he's got that strong arm, then he can threaten the secondary with his arm, and the front 7 with his speed...
Tough to stop
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Post by kloranc on Apr 18, 2007 11:49:42 GMT -6
if you play him anyplace other than QB, you are counting on lesser athletes to get him the ball. If you have players that get it to him consistently, then he might be able to play another position. If not, I think you have to play him at QB.
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Post by couldbeliftin on Apr 18, 2007 13:09:43 GMT -6
QB!!!!
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Post by coachcb on Apr 18, 2007 13:12:56 GMT -6
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Post by coachcb on Apr 18, 2007 13:17:52 GMT -6
In your scheme, he'd be a great QB, especially if you can get him to throw some decent passes. If you can teach him to throw quick package routes along with running the ball, you'll be set. He's a serious threat to the defense all over the field.
If you play him at WR, you gurantee him the ball of jets and rockets; that's about it. Everything else is going to require someone to get the ball to him.
If you play him at RB, then he's basically the same threat as he would be at QB, but without the passing threat.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Apr 18, 2007 13:38:31 GMT -6
Big question here: can anyone else play Q? DITTO...GOT ANY OTHER QB'S? KEEP HIM AT Q IF YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD BACKUP... I've been in the exact same situation at my last job- STUD soph...threw for 1000 but was a better RB, big ol'boy- result with him at QB...2-8. Next year, with less talent (zero receivers/RBs), we put him at RB, ran jet/rocket with him, he ran for 1000+ and 10TDs...result - 2-8 (SWISS CHEESE D) ENter senior year, early offers from VTEch/Tenn/Duke as LB. Plays WB and I-back- runs for 1300 in 9 games, 15TDs. We would go spread and put him back at QB with the other tailback like a spread singlewing...deadly- result...7 wins, 3 close losses by 6 or less, and playoff berth. HE HATED QB, and wanted to move out of state after a disappointing 1/2 junior season at QB. By his senior year, he freaking loved being a RB, and loved being back taking snaps in the spread even more! |
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Post by brandonk on Apr 18, 2007 18:50:27 GMT -6
Play him at QB, but let him know that he will get a chance to run the ball too.
I would look at rolling out with pass/run option and Spread SW stuff.
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Post by khalfie on Apr 18, 2007 19:22:07 GMT -6
I like the post White Mike...
But what was the advice?
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Apr 19, 2007 9:14:26 GMT -6
My bad dude
Play him at QB unless you have another good QB to throw in there. Maybe rename his position (as someone stated above) to the "Q" back, and tell him he's a running back that passes.
He may not want to be QB right now, but when he's a senior, all he'll care about is winning...
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Post by buchananm on Apr 19, 2007 11:14:02 GMT -6
It sounds like you really want him to play RB, and in the scheme you mentioned you're probably better off. I can see defenses flying to his motion which will set up the misdirection with your #2 guy. You do not need a great QB for this offense, just a great leader who knows his role. You can always move him to QB in spread for a different look, just don't get too complicated with it. Good luck coach, I wish I had this problem.
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Post by coachjim on Apr 19, 2007 22:38:57 GMT -6
WB is my first thought, although having him roll out to the sides in the 10 series as a QB would give you a lot of options also. Dumping off quick passes, running to the jungle, or turning and throwing some screens in the opposite direction. Depends on his ability to read on the run, I suppose.
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Post by pass2win on Apr 21, 2007 22:28:52 GMT -6
Sounds like you need to coach up his QB mechanics.
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Post by coachwarner on Apr 22, 2007 13:29:02 GMT -6
rumours are vicious, step one get to the bottom of rumour.
next if player is playing both sides of the ball how effective will he be,put in the QB situation.
Can your receivers catch a rocket? if the talent drops off?
play makers are usually naturals. so developing a passer distributor would be my choice,but also a lot of hard work, a little hard work never hurt anyone.
probably the key ingredient to the direction you take, is can you find another player that has the leadership skills that this player has shown you.
my vote goes to finding another QB if you can find one that can lead the team. If you can the hard work falls on yourself to teach ,develop,and elevate his level of play.
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