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Post by dubber on Oct 18, 2007 8:55:44 GMT -6
I bet your 4.95 kid, with hard work and a good speed program, can turn into a 4.7 kid
Your linemen can get better at lateral movement
It is an off-season thing..........run the freaking spread, improve every day, and mold your "athletes" into ATHLETES
Good luck..........stay the course........it'll be so sweet when you finally turn it around
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Post by goldenbear76 on Oct 18, 2007 9:19:01 GMT -6
coach I'd run a lot of draws and screens..you have to start using the other teams "athletes" against them. Get their LB's reading for those..then you can start hitting passes over them.
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Post by 1ispread on Oct 18, 2007 9:46:35 GMT -6
I would suggest you Never snap the ball with more than 5 seconds on the play clock.
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 18, 2007 9:54:00 GMT -6
1isspread--but what does it matter if they throw incomplete 30-40% of the time.
Don't get me wrong, I completely can see the idea behind the spread, even at a school without "athletes". It makes logical sense to say "It is much easier to coach my kids to run a route, and throw and catch, and to shield and move their feet, than it is to coach my kids to become 250 butt kickers who just blow you off the ball.
It just doesn't seem to work very well in practice with the bad teams. Again, as I said earlier, bad football players seem to lose games in any system. The Spread just kind of makes it look more futile.
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Post by coachcalande on Oct 18, 2007 10:19:14 GMT -6
avg to poor athletes a) dont make folks miss in space b) dont adjust well to the ball typically c) qbs that are under pressure and dont have great feet and ability to buy time typically arent going to look good with a poor oline
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Post by dhooper on Oct 18, 2007 15:18:13 GMT -6
Coach I've been in your shoes. Spread it on offense and run a okie on defense. Your kids might not be able to run the ball for five yards but they can run five yards without the ball and then catch it. (get tackle). Defense they can cut to slow down the line then it gives your D a chance. Good luck
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Post by brophy on Oct 18, 2007 20:11:47 GMT -6
speak of the devil.....
www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071018/SPORTS0101/710180306/1001/SPORTS
Under new coach, Sarepta looks to snap losing streak
SAREPTA — When the rain started coming down hard enough, John Bryant decided to settle in for a night on the booster-donated couch in his cramped office.
With little else to do on another evening away from his home in Shreveport, Bryant threw a few muddy uniforms and pants into the washing machine.
"I camp out here a lot of nights," Bryant said. "We had a good, muddy practice, so I stayed up and washed clothes late. That's a side of the job people don't know about."
A well-traveled high school football coach in northwest Louisiana, Bryant keeps finding new chores — and a fair share of unusual challenges — in his first year as head coach at Sarepta.
Bryant inherited the area's longest losing streak when he accepted the job in the summer and has since seen the skid reach 27 games following a 45-6 loss to Logansport last Friday.
Having coached for more than 20 years at schools like Airline, Logansport, North DeSoto, Ringgold and Minden, Bryant has found perhaps his greatest challenge in this latest stop.
"We've had to start from scratch, basically," Bryant said. "We've got seniors who have never won a football game. We're just trying to get the program back on its feet."
Of course, here in this tiny Webster Parish farming and lumber town along state Highway 371, football has usually been a source of more grief than grins.
Sarepta is coming off consecutive 0-10 seasons — a particularly bad stretch even for one of the area's most downtrodden programs. Over the past 10 years, Sarepta has compiled a record of 29-70, with only one winning season (6-4 in 1999) and two playoff berths (1997 and '99) during that span.
But the Hornets may have reached their nadir in 2006, when they were outscored 32-420 and lost the regular-season finale to previously winless Cotton Valley, a rival Webster Parish school that shut down its football program following that game.
"Last year, everything was always down," said Patrick Pierce, who was a sophomore on that hapless team and is now the area's leader in receptions and receiving yards as a junior. "We didn't have any kind of fun at all."
Enter Bryant, who had spent the previous two years out of coaching and was teaching at Fair Park.
Sarepta officials approached Bryant after their first attempt at a job search turned up no serious candidates. Bryant, who had turned down other coaching opportunities in the past couple years, was intrigued despite the school's abysmal record over the past decade.
Bryant wanted another chance to run his own program after an earlier one-year stint at Ringgold, and he left Sarepta impressed with the local encouragement and enthusiasm for the team.
"They give you all the support you need," Bryant said. "We've got the perfect situation here once we start winning ball games."
The Hornets were further away than he could have imagined. During those first workouts with his new team, Bryant discovered he had no players who could break five seconds in the 40-yard dash and had only a couple who could bench press 200 pounds.
The school's weight room was in complete disarray, Bryant said. The room had been used mostly as a gathering spot; it was clear no one had lifted much of any weight for some time.
"I hadn't been to the weight room when I took the job ... I almost wanted to cry," Bryant said. "I spent a whole day in there and took everything out. I had to get rid of all the roaches ... that's all (the players) did was go in there and eat and sit around."
Bryant and his new staff began plugging away, putting the players through grueling workouts and installing a new wide-open passing offense to compensate for the team's lack of size and strength.
The staff also began recruiting students from the school hallways and accepted a handful of kids from Cotton Valley, who no longer had a team at their school. Their efforts paid off: the Hornets had 42 players for fall drills, nearly twice as many as in recent years.
Thus far, the improvement at Sarepta has been evident everywhere except in the won-loss column. The Hornets have been outscored 72-301 in seven games but have been more competitive, including a down-to-the-wire 28-20 loss to Lakeside in Week 3.
"Everybody was happy and all riled up," said Donald Parish, a senior wing back and safety who came from Cotton Valley. "The people here really came together after that game."
Said first-year offensive coordinator James Thurman: "I think most of the people just don't understand how smart of a coach I am. My spread is probably right up there in terms of milestone achievements as the Internet. I just wish I had a carpetbagger defensive coordinator to run the other side of the ball"
But, ultimately, a win is the next frontier for Bryant and the Hornets. Sarepta has three games left against teams with a combined record of 6-14, meaning there's a chance — albeit a slight one — to end that ugly losing streak before the season is over.
Bryant would like to get that elusive first win, if only to reward his kids for all they've gone through over the past few years.
"These kids have come a long way," Bryant said. "You never want to lose but it's a whole lot easier to take when you know the kids are giving all they got
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Post by dubber on Oct 18, 2007 20:39:17 GMT -6
It`s a long way to the top If you wanna rock `n` roll ......this is all I could think of after reading Broph's post
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Post by brophy on Oct 18, 2007 21:09:52 GMT -6
that about sums it up.....
Plus, AC/DC drank a lot, so .....I see the connection.
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Post by wildcat on Oct 19, 2007 4:45:28 GMT -6
Wow...I feel a lot better about our situation now.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 19, 2007 13:31:27 GMT -6
I have been very successful running the spread. I had one team that passed for 2500 & ran for 2500 in the same season. Last year we were 1-5 at one point and changed to the wing t. We won three in row with it, one over a top ten team.
We weren't bad in the spread, but we couldn't make big plays. Over and over we would get our guys in the same open space that we previusly had turned into 30+ or TD plays. But with this team, they were 5-7 yard plays.
I am a firm believer that if you can't make big plays in the spread or can't make the defense think you can make big plays, then you are in for a long night. If you can make big plays it is great. If the D is worried about your big plays, then at least the run is there.
Everybody just played cover 2 with there OLB's half way playing run first. It became 7 in the box even though they weren't really in the "box." They took away long ball and run. What was there was the screen game. Problem is, when those plays are only 5-7 yards, the defense wins. I know you, you say run it all night. One game we ran 18 screens. We were shut out. Just about all of them had the potential to really go. Some they blew up, but again most were just 5-7 yards. Don't even begin to tell me to run more than 18 screens in one game.
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Post by brophy on Oct 19, 2007 20:16:18 GMT -6
Although I do not get along with 'airraider', and not many people can tolerate his acerbic attitude, and he has an uncanny knack for just upsetting anyone in his vicinity.... I have to say, the guy is a great coach, whom I'm glad to have gotten to know the past few years. He is an up-and-coming coach who really knows (and studies) his stuff and is committed to his players (great with player relationships).Man, I just love this... I think I particularly enjoyed seeing airraider who is so ntidw post it though. good stuff. Looking at his players though Id be much more inclined to put in a power offense that relied on faking, double teaming. I was enjoying the fact that a known dw hater, known lover of the spread was ACTUALLY giving thought to the idea that "maybe the double wing and its philosophy WOULD BE a good fit" - feel better now? You seriously waste too much time trying to read into what I actually type. do I think that team would be better with the dw? darned right I do. Would it take better coaching then they are getting right now? you betchya. Look at how many kids are standing around watching plays, that cant happen in the dw. [url= _?action=display&board=football&thread=1192709867&page=1]garbage[/url]
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Post by airraider on Oct 19, 2007 23:51:55 GMT -6
Although I do not get along with 'airraider', and not many people can tolerate his acerbic attitude, and he has an uncanny knack for just upsetting anyone in his vicinity.... I have to say, the guy is a great coach, whom I'm glad to have gotten to know the past few years. He is an up-and-coming coach who really knows (and studies) his stuff and is committed to his players (great with player relationships).Man, I just love this... I think I particularly enjoyed seeing airraider who is so ntidw post it though. good stuff. Looking at his players though Id be much more inclined to put in a power offense that relied on faking, double teaming. I was enjoying the fact that a known dw hater, known lover of the spread was ACTUALLY giving thought to the idea that "maybe the double wing and its philosophy WOULD BE a good fit" - feel better now? You seriously waste too much time trying to read into what I actually type. do I think that team would be better with the dw? darned right I do. Would it take better coaching then they are getting right now? you betchya. Look at how many kids are standing around watching plays, that cant happen in the dw. [url= _?action=display&board=football&thread=1192709867&page=1]garbage [/url][/quote] Aww, the yank loves me!!! haha
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Post by ttowntiger on Nov 4, 2007 17:19:09 GMT -6
I know you guys are finished with the season, but I would look at putting some bunch stuff in next year. Compressed sets and rubs (picks) can help inferior athletes get open.
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Post by wagl on Nov 4, 2007 18:19:29 GMT -6
Coach- Have you thought about incorporating the single wing? It is still shotgun and is very deceptive- should help neutralize speed.
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