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Post by fbdoc on Nov 27, 2007 12:10:36 GMT -6
New issue of AFM has a nice article on a "New Hybrid" offense, the Shot Gun Zone Fly. Its funny, it looks like the same thing we've run for a few years at my little school here in South Florida, although we don't get 4,000 yards a year rushing!  |
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Post by coachnichols on Nov 27, 2007 21:00:07 GMT -6
Hey I just read that article too. I was wondering, since you run it too I think I'll ask...but isn't mainly what he (the article's coach) do just running Stretch with a receiver in motion and handing off to him? I mean, that doesn't seem revolutionary but the article sure makes it seem like he's struck gold. How's it work out for you? We tried this some a few years ago at the school I was coaching OLine at. We kept finding our 5'7" 130lb white Z receiver who ran a 5.5 40 would never make it around the edge. He always seemed to get caught for some reason. How's it work for you?
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Post by tog on Nov 27, 2007 21:05:06 GMT -6
we love it
been doing it for years
even if you are slow
at least your player is going full speed at the snap
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Post by dubber on Nov 27, 2007 21:12:31 GMT -6
Hey I just read that article too. I was wondering, since you run it too I think I'll ask...but isn't mainly what he (the article's coach) do just running Stretch with a receiver in motion and handing off to him? I mean, that doesn't seem revolutionary but the article sure makes it seem like he's struck gold. How's it work out for you? We tried this some a few years ago at the school I was coaching OLine at. We kept finding our 5'7" 130lb white Z receiver who ran a 5.5 40 would never make it around the edge. He always seemed to get caught for some reason. How's it work for you? I've found it works better out of gun than under center for your slower kids, because it is not a "to the jungle" play, but a stretch read and cut play.... ....off course, the kid I had running it was a little bit faster than 5.5 (man I hope that is an exaggeration) |
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Post by dubber on Nov 27, 2007 21:14:04 GMT -6
correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this essentially what WVU runs out of their two-back..............just without the fly motion?
I mean blocking and reads are all the same.......
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Post by coachnichols on Nov 27, 2007 21:25:41 GMT -6
I think it's awesome, I love it, I will run it, and no, I wasn't exaggerating. The 6A school (largest level in Kansas) our Z and H receivers both ran 5.5's in the preseason, X was slower, Y was around 5.0, TB ran a 5.0, and our fastest player was the QB with an astounding 4.9! No kidding! The parents and our dumba** administration always wondered why we had trouble competing against the better teams in our league. Funny, we always seemed to be a step slow.
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Post by spos21ram on Nov 28, 2007 0:08:27 GMT -6
Arkansas ran a little bit last week when Mcfadden was at QB. You can really hurt a D if you have some speed. Boy would I love jones and mcfadden in my backfield.
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Post by sls on Nov 28, 2007 7:09:48 GMT -6
We also ran this a lot this year from the pistol.
Tog got me started on it 2 years ago.
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Post by spos21ram on Nov 28, 2007 12:46:33 GMT -6
Is this article in the december issue or november. I can't find it online in the november issue unless I'm looking for the wrong title.
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Post by dubber on Nov 28, 2007 13:35:34 GMT -6
We also ran this a lot this year from the pistol. Tog got me started on it 2 years ago. Did you have the RB lead on this? |
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Post by fbdoc on Nov 28, 2007 14:02:20 GMT -6
Its the December issue (Vol. 13). Cover Story.
When we run the sweep the motion man goes in front and the back comes off for the dive. We tried it out of pistol with the back behind the QB and had mixed results (I think our QB never really got comfortable with the pistol). When we would do option we would bring the sweeper in front and read for the FB give. IF the QB pulled we would run the triple with the sweeper who was now geared down in pitch relationship.
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Post by biggerblue on Nov 29, 2007 0:30:18 GMT -6
what exacctly is this offense never heard of it before??
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Post by mike13 on Nov 29, 2007 8:01:21 GMT -6
We been running the jet sweep for a few years (under center) worked well with speed but when speed is average less success. fbdoc I have been experimenting with the thought of running it out of pistol with the back in front. Then using a read play off of that. fbdoc did you run the play with the back in front with success?
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Post by fbdoc on Nov 29, 2007 9:17:50 GMT -6
We did for awhile and really liked it, however our sweepers started to get injured (we eventually had ZERO speed) and our QB just seemed to be very uncomfortable in the pistol. He did well in the gun and great under center. I still like what the pistol does for us - we'll take a look this spring (or we'll try Ted Seay's A Formation!). Check with Tog as I believe he is having very good success with his Fly/Jet Pistol.
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Post by cls on Nov 29, 2007 9:27:42 GMT -6
I found, and some may disagree, that if your kids are slower you need to run the jet under center. We tried to run jet out of the gun with kids who had average speed and it didn't seem to work as well. Did anyone else get the same results
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Post by kramer19 on Nov 29, 2007 10:04:54 GMT -6
 Check out the Xtreme Schemes site, Coach Babcock has been running gun jet scheme for some time now.
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Check out the Xtreme Schemes site, Coach Babcock has been