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Post by flycoach on May 2, 2007 20:10:29 GMT -6
Well, the time has come. I am going to my first clinic this weekend. I am going up to the Willamette Clinic to learn even more about the FLY offense.
Those of you who are "clinic junkies" what advice do you have for me? Anything I need to bring or do to make this a GREAT experience?
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Post by kboyd on May 2, 2007 20:23:17 GMT -6
Have fun and take lots of notes so you can share with us. As for what to take, I've seen guys that have brought in slow cookers for their hotel room and coolers of food from home to save some $. I just always make sure to have plenty of note paper, some business cards and I always have a copy of my resume on hand (you never know). As for the cooler, I always bring one but I'm Canadian so it's for my beer.
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Post by bulldogoption on May 2, 2007 20:25:52 GMT -6
Just a few things off the top of my head
1. Number your pages as you go and write the speaker. It will make organizing the notes easier later.
2. If they have handouts, get up there pronto, most speakers never have enough.
3. Sit where you can see the screen.
4. Be forewarned, if you sit in the front row, speakers are likely to grab you to demonstrate technique.
5. Being at a clinic is like a kid in a candy store. Take their talk with some perspective.....you always need to fit things into your program......theirs may be apples while your are oranges
6. I usually try to bring some food for sandwiches if it will be a couple days, hotel food can get expensive.
7. Lastly, after they give you schemes, write your kids names where they would play and see if it still looks as good, LOL....
Have fun, be careful, its addicting.......
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Post by brophy on May 2, 2007 20:30:12 GMT -6
make sure you pick the week AFTER the clinic to stop sniffing glue.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 2, 2007 20:33:29 GMT -6
BE careful not to fall "under the influence" lol. I knokw a few coaches who, after each presenter, walk away saying "Thats what we have to do". Nevermind that the first speaker was talking about two TE option and the next was talking run and shoot.....
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Post by flycoach on May 2, 2007 20:37:20 GMT -6
make sure you pick the week AFTER the clinic to stop sniffing glue. Dang it. I needed to post this a week ago. |
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Post by flycoach on May 2, 2007 20:37:57 GMT -6
Thanks guys keep 'em coming.... ;D
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Post by fbdoc on May 2, 2007 20:43:47 GMT -6
Take a camera and record it all, especially Speckman. And tell him Jake from Coral Springs Christian in Florida said hello!
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Post by nexthc on May 2, 2007 20:46:03 GMT -6
Take plenty of one dollar bills and cold beer! HA HA. On a serious note, this is what I take along:
- pens (blue, red, green).. plenty of pencils... highlighters (colors)
- several pads of paper
- 3 ring binder with blank field diagrams on it
- clipboard
- business cards (if you have them)
- snacks for the hotal room... water, soda, chips, etc......
- the normal materials for a overnight trip
- I bring a blow up air bed with me so that I know that I have a bed to myself
Last but not least, find out where the closest DD is so that you can get your coffee in the morning (if you drink coffee)
My only advice to you is to not worry about learning everything that the speaker is saying. Very seldem do you leave a clinic session saying that we are doing everything that the speaker said. Take one or two items away from each session. That materials you can take back to your program.
Also, sit on the opposite side of the hand of the speaker. This is so that you can see the screen when the speaker writes on the overhead.
I hope that his helps. Good luck and have fun!
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Post by kboyd on May 2, 2007 21:19:20 GMT -6
Oh, I forgot - I usually try to remember earplugs for anyone sharing the room. I'll admit it, I'm a horrible snorer.
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Post by nexthc on May 2, 2007 21:26:55 GMT -6
I am guilty of also snoring.
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Post by coachmoore42 on May 2, 2007 21:42:35 GMT -6
Just a few things off the top of my head 1. Number your pages as you go and write the speaker. It will make organizing the notes easier later. 2. If they have handouts, get up there pronto, most speakers never have enough. 3. Sit where you can see the screen. 4. Be forewarned, if you sit in the front row, speakers are likely to grab you to demonstrate technique. 5. Being at a clinic is like a kid in a candy store. Take their talk with some perspective.....you always need to fit things into your program......theirs may be apples while your are oranges 6. I usually try to bring some food for sandwiches if it will be a couple days, hotel food can get expensive. 7. Lastly, after they give you schemes, write your kids names where they would play and see if it still looks as good, LOL.... Have fun, be careful, its addicting....... If you go to hear an OL coach speak #4 is certain to happen. Seriously, #1 is the best advice, and the rest of it is good too. |
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Post by bulldogoption on May 2, 2007 22:14:27 GMT -6
- I bring a blow up air bed with me so that I know that I have a bed to myself I bring a blow up doll with me if I have a bed to myself....  |
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Post by jamesmthomson on May 3, 2007 0:19:50 GMT -6
I know some may disagree, but I would avoid drinking while at clinics. I am there for business and want to be as sharp mentally as possible.
Also, don't be afraid to listen to a speaker who may coach a different position than what you do--you would be amazed at how many good ideas you can get from this whether it be the way something is phrased, knowing the other side of the ball better, or something that actually applies to to your position tht you never thought would.
As was said, many pens and many notepads. Also, some kind of hard cover portfolio or binder to keep them in or give you a hard surface on which to write.
Lastly, don't be afraid to ask questions or to look stupid if you don't know what the speaker is talking about. Get the most you can out of it.
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Post by crl on May 3, 2007 0:43:02 GMT -6
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Post by tog on May 3, 2007 6:30:33 GMT -6
go listen to the speakers you really want to hear
but set up hotel room clinics with HS guys that are in similar situations as you and then let the real learning and discussion begin
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Post by gamedog on May 3, 2007 9:19:59 GMT -6
Don't just listen to people that coach your position or the offense you run now . I'm an oline guy but I listen to the defensive guys just to hear what they are teaching to beat me. I have been in run oriented offenses my whole career but have always listened to the spread guys and now we are going to the spread so I feel I am not lost completely.
Take your notes at the clinic and then re-write them at the room or if not there, then ASAP. Because you will not write something down thinking you will remember it, or you will not remember the meaning of something you wrote down. Re-writing it puts it deeper into your mind and also gives you the chance to "clean" it up and add things or clarify things.
Don't be a "back row" guy because someone back there will start talking and you will miss something. But, like previously stated, the front row guys can get beat up a little also. Try to hang out with someone who knows other coaches so you can meet new people and don't be afraid to walk up to someone in the lobby or bar and see if they have a few minutes to discuss something. Buy them a beer or something and the next thing you know you are getting your very own, personal clinic that is a lot better than they gave on stage.
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Post by tedseay on May 3, 2007 9:54:37 GMT -6
Aaron: Whatever you do, don't agree to play "Rock-Paper-Scissors" with Coach Speckman.
He cheats.
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Post by donaldduck on May 3, 2007 10:01:52 GMT -6
Since you're an offensive guy, make sure to go hear a few defensive speakers as well. You can get another perspective on what the defensive does compared to what you do.
I'm not ashamed that I'm a part-time spy for one weekend in Bryan, TX; ;D
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Post by crl on May 3, 2007 10:30:52 GMT -6
 Ted you just bought an express ticket to hell...I played against Speckman, our TE would not hit him, because of his abilitys,. I said I´ll take care of it...my ticket was sent personaly by St. Pete that night after the game  needless to say when we played him this year I did not get to speak with him.
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Post by kloranc on May 3, 2007 10:41:15 GMT -6
Don't overlook the high school guys or assistant coaches. Some people think that they can only learn something from the big name coaches, but I usually get some of the best info from the other guys.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 3, 2007 10:57:27 GMT -6
Well, this comment applies more to general clinics (Like the AFCA) than a specific Fly offensive clinic but :
"Be Mindful of the presentation and the PRESENTER when asking a question "
A few examples:
Don't go to listen to Pete Carroll talk defense, and ask him "Coach how would you run that against the Wing T or double wing" That isn't fair to the presenter (He doesn't play against Wing T), or to the rest of the audience. A much better way to handle this is to approach after the presentation (or even contact one of his assts ) and say "I really like _____ concept presented at the clinic. I was wondering if you could show me how you would apply this to some of the things we face regularly"
Be wary asking coaches at the college and PRO levels about some talent related items. You might get some crummy and jaded replies. For example I saw a H.S coach ask an Ohio State D-Line guy one time "Coach, How to you keep your guys from getting flatbacked when they are doubled teamed?" Silent room.......crickets...crickets....
I guess this post goes along the lines of the previous ones that talked about getting together with guys who have a SIMILAR situation as you do. The lecture "Linebacking the FSU way" while informative, probably won't help you that much when your guys are 5'10, 175lbs and play at a geriatric pace.
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Post by flycoach on May 3, 2007 11:14:42 GMT -6
Well, this comment applies more to general clinics (Like the AFCA) than a specific Fly offensive clinic but : "Be Mindful of the presentation and the PRESENTER when asking a question " A few examples: Don't go to listen to Pete Carroll talk defense, and ask him "Coach how would you run that against the Wing T or double wing" That isn't fair to the presenter (He doesn't play against Wing T), or to the rest of the audience. A much better way to handle this is to approach after the presentation (or even contact one of his assts ) and say "I really like _____ concept presented at the clinic. I was wondering if you could show me how you would apply this to some of the things we face regularly" Be wary asking coaches at the college and PRO levels about some talent related items. You might get some crummy and jaded replies. For example I saw a H.S coach ask an Ohio State D-Line guy one time "Coach, How to you keep your guys from getting flatbacked when they are doubled teamed?" Silent room.......crickets...crickets.... I guess this post goes along the lines of the previous ones that talked about getting together with guys who have a SIMILAR situation as you do. The lecture "Linebacking the FSU way" while informative, probably won't help you that much when your guys are 5'10, 175lbs and play at a geriatric pace. Very sound advice. Thank you. I thank God everyday though that he blessed me with common sense.  |
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Post by flycoach on May 3, 2007 13:18:30 GMT -6
Aaron: Whatever you do, don't agree to play "Rock-Paper-Scissors" with Coach Speckman. He cheats. Your killing me Ted. ;D |
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Post by tog on May 3, 2007 13:50:11 GMT -6
Since you're an offensive guy, make sure to go hear a few defensive speakers as well. You can get another perspective on what the defensive does compared to what you do. I'm not ashamed that I'm a part-time spy for one weekend in Bryan, TX; ;D I hardly ever go to offensive ones any more. As an OC I want to know how defenses are playing things. I know our offense and really don't need to hear for the gillionth time how to combo up on zone read. i want to see how and why people are playing things. I have also noted that defensive meetings are generally better. They don't get bogged down with stats and junk like that, they as a general rule get in there and get after it showing you why and how they attack offenses. |
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Post by ex-centralcoach on May 3, 2007 15:22:41 GMT -6
Take a Dry-Erase Board and plenty of markers, for those late night sessions with other coaches. Sometimes i get more out of those then anything else.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2007 15:40:42 GMT -6
Two very good points from Tog. I'll admit I need to go to more defensive talks and I actually learn more and get more ideas from the "after hours" clinics than the actual talks.
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Post by phantom on May 3, 2007 15:56:18 GMT -6
Well, the time has come. I am going to my first clinic this weekend. I am going up to the Willamette Clinic to learn even more about the FLY offense. Those of you who are "clinic junkies" what advice do you have for me? Anything I need to bring or do to make this a GREAT experience? Go to as many sessions as you can. Take great notes. Many have advised you to go to defensive sessions so that you can understand defense better as an offensive coach. Really, though, as a young coach you need to learn as much basic football as you can. Two years from now you may be a LB coach. |
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