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Post by champ93 on Apr 27, 2007 19:53:00 GMT -6
Due to budgetary concerns, my school district is considering laying off our AD. No real options have been discussed to fill in the possible void. We are a school of almost 1600 with 850 kids in sports in the High school alone. The super told the local newspaper our AD did not have anything to do with instruction of our students, so that is why he has been targeted.
We already have pay-to-participate fees ($175 next year/sport w/ $600 family cap) and my football budget for the last 3 years is $0 except for reconditioning. Everything else is fundraised.
However we do have a "strings" class at the middle school and 2 theaters.
What message does this action send to you?
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Post by PSS on Apr 27, 2007 20:04:48 GMT -6
May not be what you want to hear: Might be time to look for another job?
A few things to ask yourself are:
1. Is the situation hurting the athletes?
2. Is it going to change in the future?
3. How is it going to affect you?
If it's not a good situation, get out!
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Post by coachmason2 on Apr 27, 2007 20:06:36 GMT -6
The message is " I DON'T LIKE SPORTS TAKE YOUR CRAP AND WALK" and it is unfortunate since in my opinion sports and athletics is what kids need especialy this generation of kids! Just my 2 cents I would go find a school that promotes athletics instead of limiting it. Or get the parents on your side and start attending board meetings.
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Post by briangilbert on Apr 27, 2007 20:17:46 GMT -6
If you live in Ohio... Then duck and cover because our school's are not funded equally.
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Post by tog on Apr 27, 2007 20:58:19 GMT -6
get out
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Post by champ93 on Apr 28, 2007 8:02:43 GMT -6
If you live in Ohio... Then duck and cover because our school's are not funded equally. Actually Michigan and we're funded unequally too. Moving isn't much of an option. My oldest will be a soph, then an 8th grader, then 2nd grade. Next year will be my 11th year in the district. I've considered though, believe me Our new super spoke at a booster meeting and told us he has a high priority for athletics, we need to upgrade facilities,etc. Everyone involved was very optimistic. Then 2 months later this. Just another example of what they think of sports. One of my assistants is also a scout leader and sent out an email to his kids' parents alerting them of the situation and told them to check the article in the local paper. nothing else. Not a bad word toward the admin, just send them an email and let them know your feelings. One of those parents was our asst superintendent of personnel. (we have 3 asst supers at $100,000+). Needless to say he basically issued a gag order to our coach and told him he would be better served to send emails to our state legis. to get a change in funding (Agreed) and that athletics are important, but "just a blip on the radar screen." I think you have to pick your battles in life. This is one hill I'm ready to die on. Going to another school is not really an option, I owe it to our kids in sports and my program, my 3 boys and myself to see this thing through, good or bad. Thanks for the advice though, keep it coming. |
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Post by ajreaper on Apr 28, 2007 8:05:50 GMT -6
Ask the Sup how many students he instructs daily. If you have pay to play where does that money go? You have a zero budget but your kid all fork over $175 to play + the gate from all home games - sounds like athletics is paying for something other then athletics. Sounds to me like you are somewhere that cares little about sports in general nd it may be time for you to seriously consider moving on.
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Post by CVBears on Apr 28, 2007 9:58:47 GMT -6
I think you have to pick your battles in life. This is one hill I'm ready to die on. Going to another school is not really an option, I owe it to our kids in sports and my program, my 3 boys and myself to see this thing through, good or bad. Thanks for the advice though, keep it coming. Good luck to you coach. Keep on fighting the good fight. |
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Post by saintrad on Apr 28, 2007 22:01:53 GMT -6
However we do have a "strings" class at the middle school and 2 theaters. What message does this action send to you? maybe they see their players as STUDENTS first and athletes second. |
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Post by airman on Apr 29, 2007 11:41:31 GMT -6
this is why you have to be CIA like and tape every conversation with administration. when their words on are tape and it goes to the newspaper, they tend to back down.
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Post by fbdoc on Apr 29, 2007 14:15:33 GMT -6
Parents are usually able to get far more done directly than is the coach. In whatever way you can do it, get your parents, the same ones who vote for the school board that hires (and fires) the superintendent to let their feelings be know. If the parents don't speak, then it may be time to move on... or drop it.
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Post by coachbw on Apr 30, 2007 0:00:17 GMT -6
We are also going through a similar situation right now. I basically did two things. First, I informed the parents of what was going on. I didn't put any spin on it, just made sure that they saw the public document the school board had put together on the proposal and told them if they had a strong feeling either way to contact the school board members. Second, I connected with the other head coaches in the system and asked administrators/school board members for their vision of how the work currently being done by the AD (scheduling refs, elgibility, purchasing, overseeing the training staff, etc.) would be done. Obviously the answer you are going to get is that it will fall on another administrator or the head coaches . . . either way, there may be implications that the unions may want to look into.
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Post by pantherpride91 on Apr 30, 2007 6:31:26 GMT -6
If you live in Ohio... Then duck and cover because our school's are not funded equally. Amen to that.....its a sad state of affairs here when it comes to school funding.....We got schools that flood everytime it rains making the halls impassible and others who have state of the art everything |
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Post by dcwar on Apr 30, 2007 10:23:31 GMT -6
Get some of your parents to run for the school board and you will see how the tune of the superintendent changes.
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Post by pal on Apr 30, 2007 12:21:50 GMT -6
move..or learn to play an instrument  |
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Post by ogie4 on May 1, 2007 7:01:03 GMT -6
this is why you have to be CIA like and tape every conversation with administration. when their words on are tape and it goes to the newspaper, they tend to back down. I am an administrator and former FB coach. Budgets are getting tighter and tighter, and sadly, they are going to be getting tighter for everyone. Nation wide, school districts are being told to be ready to cut 10-15% of your budgets beause we are taxing people beyond their means. (this is coming in the next 5 to 7 years if Taxes are not raised again on businesses, and the wealthy on the national and local level) The sub-prime housing mess is partly caused by this. People buy houses they can afford the payments for, but not the taxes come Dec. The effective tax rate for a family with a 100,000 income is over 44% right now. Tax payers have had enough. Thus sports are going to be one of the first to go, and frankly, right after fat central administration payrolls, they should be the first cut because they provide the least educational bang for the buck. I know and appreciate all the arguements for athletics, and in an environment where money is not an object, I agree totally. But think of it this way, if you are broke, you don't buy season tickets to the local NFL team. The priority right now is funding the classrooms first, and then money for extra-curricular. While this makes no coach or administrator happy, it's our current forseeable reality. |
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Post by pal on May 1, 2007 7:50:50 GMT -6
very true ogie4...sad, but true
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Post by gamedog on May 1, 2007 8:45:18 GMT -6
You said that over 1/2 of your student body is in some sort of sport? That's a lot of parents that should have a heap of power to leverage the super on imo.
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