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Post by airraider on Dec 15, 2006 10:12:13 GMT -6
How many coaches do you have on your staff? I am mainly asking high school staffs.
How many paid coaches? Volunteer coaches? Off campus paid coaches? and how many kids in your school?
We have just over 800 kids. We had around 55 in the varsity program and 35 in the freshmen program.
We had 4 volunteer coaches, two of which were the freshmen coaches. The other two are varsity coaches (OC and OL). We have the HC and 4 paid assistants.
So there is a total of 9 coaches for the entire football program. A total of 9 coaches for 90 kids. If it were not for the volunteer coaches then it would be only 5 coaches for 90 kids.
How many of you have to deal with this? They would not hire coaches this year. The HC and the administration were at each other's throats early in the year. Now that we just finished up a 13-1 season losing only in the semis to the 30 game winning streak state champs, their tune is changing a bit.
Some people in the community are posting on our local message board that the coaches should stop complaining about this and about that.
But the fact is, we passed a bond issue to partially rebuild our campus and refurbish the rest. This was right before the hurricanes hit. Now that the cost of building materials went up, they had to make cuts. So they cut out all of the money for the football stadium and the gym where our locker rooms and weight rooms are.
They are building a brand new gym over at the other side of campus. The thing is, this old gym was built in 1938. The stadium was built in the 40's. The pressbox was also built in the 40's. We have sewage pipes running through the top of our dressing rooms. They leak at times.
We have to move the other team around during playoffs because the place where we normally put them does not have hot water for the showers.
Its pretty sad that the kids cannot even have a place that they can be proud of.
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Post by coachf on Dec 15, 2006 10:40:04 GMT -6
70 kids last year- 4 coaches (only 3 on most days) 2 Frosh-JV 2 Varsity
This year- 65 kids 4 coaches (only 3 on M, W,Th) 2 Frosh-JV 2 Varsity
Way too few coaches. We have no volunteers to coach. Really tough when you have that many kids. We spend most of our time having to run team drills, because we do not have the time to do 1-on-1 coaching.
Our school board would love to get rid of one or more these positions. They seem to think that it is an easy job and they pay more than enough.
We have your same problem with facilities. Our locker room is terrible. It barely fits our team and the showers don't even have heads on them. Most kids have to keep their equipment in their cars, because the lockers are too small. I am embarassed by how crappy our facilities are.
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Post by superpower on Dec 15, 2006 10:40:20 GMT -6
Our school has about 270 students (9-12), and we had 50 boys out for football. Our staff consisted of me and three paid assistants. (Kansas doesn't allow for volunteer assistants.) The school has agreed to pay for another assistant coach starting next season.
Also, we have outstanding facilities.
By the way, I am looking for a def. coordinator. We will have teaching vacancies for high school social studies and science. There is a post about this position in the JOB AND CAREER ADVICE section of this forum.
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Post by airraider on Dec 15, 2006 11:44:23 GMT -6
I guess I shouldnt complain as much when compared to some of your situations. But what gets me is the teams we play in our district that have 10+ coaches. There are teams in our school district that are 2 classes smaller than us and they have 6 or 7 paid coaches.
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Post by airraider on Dec 15, 2006 11:46:01 GMT -6
where is the job and career advice section?
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Post by calicoachh on Dec 15, 2006 12:47:18 GMT -6
we have 640 students co-ed (340 boys) 130 play football, three levels there are 18 coaches. I, the head coach, am the only on-campus coach. we have 12 paid positions( not very much, mind you)
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Post by sls on Dec 15, 2006 12:50:00 GMT -6
Around 650 kids in H.S.
62 kids on team 9-12 last year. 6 coaches including the head coach, 5 paid.
In Indiana the average ratio of the 10 schools who played in the state finals in 2005 was 8 players to every coach.
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Post by bigcroz on Dec 15, 2006 12:57:47 GMT -6
We have about 240 9-12 and had 30 out for ball this fall. We are a new program (5years old), with rising numbers each year. Our lockerroom is the old storage building that was used by the soccer team. No showers, bathrooms, running water, heat. Visiting teams use the boys lockerroom in the gym, which is too small to hold player equipment, so we get the storage building. It is myself with 2 paid assistants and no volunteers. I am currently looking for a Head JV coach, which will add 1 more to our staff. We should have 40+ kids this next fall. Not sure on the exact teaching openings for next year, but if anyone is interested in living in Northeren Michigan give me a shout.
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Post by superpower on Dec 15, 2006 13:33:58 GMT -6
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Post by spartancoach on Dec 15, 2006 13:42:37 GMT -6
Team - 85 varsity & JV players, 45 freshman
Coaches - 5 paid - varsity HC, varsity OC, varsity DC, OL/DL coach, freshman HC
6 volunteers, of which 5 get a "stipend" from the booster club. The volunteers coach QBs, RBs/LBs, TEs/Specials, DBs, WR, freshman assistant/strength& conditioning.
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Post by larrymoe on Dec 15, 2006 14:27:51 GMT -6
Last year it was me, coachf and 1 1/2 other guys. It was really too few guys, but that's as many as they've had there for years. And as coachf said the admins and school board honestly think it's too many.
This year, at this school, we had 70 kids out and 4 varsity coaches (including head, all paid) and three freshmen coaches (all paid). I worked with the varsity d-line and doubled as the head soph coach. Seven guys total and it at times didn't seem like enough. Most of that was because of the kind of kids we coach.
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Post by jwp on Dec 15, 2006 15:32:43 GMT -6
Texas 4A
14 Total
8 Varsity ( Also coach the JV)
6 Freshman
Adding two more this year
then it will be 8 Varsity
4 JV
4 Freshman
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Post by blb on Dec 15, 2006 15:40:58 GMT -6
1702 kids in our school, have between 40-50 on varsity (11-12 graders), around 30 JVs (sophs), 30-40 freshmen usually.
We have nine paid coaching positions, normally three each level. This year we also had three volunteers.
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Post by bluboy on Dec 15, 2006 16:23:38 GMT -6
We have 1600 in our school (grades 9-12). This past season we had 95 on the varsity (this also includes JV and Soph team) and about 50 on the frosh team. The varsity has 5 paid assistants and three volunteers (no-paid postions). The frosh has two paid coaches and one volunteer.
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Post by airman on Dec 15, 2006 17:25:28 GMT -6
been is different situations. best was 10 coaches for varsity,jv and fr. worst, 4 coaches for varisty,jv and fr.
best situation however was 6 coaches, no jv and fr was part of the jr hi program. need 6 to platoon, perfer 8.
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Post by coachdawhip on Dec 15, 2006 17:30:22 GMT -6
We have 1400 kids in the school 70 on the team.
3 teachers in the building HC, Asst. HC, OC, 3 teachers not in the building and 3 lay coaches
one of the biggest staffs I have been on average for our county is 7 coaches and only 3 in the building
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Post by toprowguy on Dec 16, 2006 8:50:27 GMT -6
We have 1,800 students, 160 kids (Fr-Sr) playing football. We have 14 coaches (8 paid, 6 volunteers) with 11 of the coaches teaching in the building.
The problem we have is that we do not have enough paid coaches per number of kids on the team especially since we have 4 teams (Fr, So, JV, V).
Are there any ratio's out there for player to coach. We need this number so we can fight for 2 other paid positions with the BOE.
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Post by blb on Dec 16, 2006 9:00:16 GMT -6
A friend of mine was a long-time, highly-successful coach at a school where they gave him one paid position for every ten players. So if they had forty players on the team, they had four paid coaches (including HC).
This may have been a union-negotiatied, master contract thing - that I don't know.
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Post by bluecrazy on Dec 16, 2006 9:09:05 GMT -6
You guys blow me away. We have 126 kids in the school. Mostly girls. Had 26 9-12 grade players last year. Trying to recruit kids so we can play a J.V. Besides my self we have 1 paid assistant for varsity, one for Jr. high. I had 2 volunteers on varsity and 2 at the Jr. high. They tell me if we get a J.V. we will get one more paid assistant job. It is tough playing freshman on the varsity. bluecrazy
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Post by coachf on Dec 16, 2006 21:22:37 GMT -6
bluecrazy, I have been there. Coached with one other guy for 2 straight years. We coached the JV and Varsity (didn't have enough for freshmen). No volunteers. It was so tough. No chance to do individual work unless they stay way after. The amount of time the small school guys put into coaching is unreal. Not saying the big school guys don't work as long, I just think they have shorter practices. Probably more time gameplanning.
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Post by fbdoc on Dec 17, 2006 20:51:33 GMT -6
250 in grades 9-12 along with 40+ 8th graders.
I have 3 total coaches on varsity (I'm the only one in the building) and 3 more (1 in the building) for our 8th grade. All positions get a stipend - like the rest of you, it's not much!
Our budget actually has another stipend for each team - we just don't have anyone worth paying!
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Post by 4-2-5 on Dec 17, 2006 22:02:00 GMT -6
2500 students
80 on Varsity = 9 Paid Coaches
40 on JV - 4 paid Coaches
65 on Freshman team = 3 paid coaches
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Dec 17, 2006 23:23:22 GMT -6
Virginia
2500 Students
50 Varsity roster
10 Coaches Var/JV
7 paid, 3 volunteer- 4 teach in the school, 2 teach in district, others are out of district
1 paid freshman coach, 1 volunteer.
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Post by toprowguy on Jan 13, 2007 9:58:01 GMT -6
Can your football booster club pay your volunteer coaches?
I beleive in some states it is illegal to do so.
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 13, 2007 10:19:47 GMT -6
When I was at a small school we had me (HC) and depending on the year 1-2 other paid assistants with 1 volunteer.
The school I am at now...we have 4 paid varsity coaches, 2 paid sophomore coaches, 2 paid freshman coaches. Then we have 4 volunteers at the varsity level and 1 more each the soph and fresh levels.
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Post by kylem56 on Jan 13, 2007 11:07:01 GMT -6
Ohio
Enrollment: little under 500
40 on varsity/jv
20 or so on freshman team
Varsity- 7 coaches
JV- 2 coaches (also on varsity staff)
Freshman- 2 coaches (also on varsity staff)
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Post by CVBears on Jan 13, 2007 12:42:16 GMT -6
California, 2700 students
Varsity: HC and four paid, one volunteer 55-60 players
JV: HC and three paid, two volunteers 35-40 players
Frosh: HC and two paid, three volunteers ~50 players
Also, depending on the state, the booster club/type of organization CAN pay for salaries/make "donations" directly to coaches. Most states/school districts have to abide by certain established rules concerning donations. One of the most common rule is that if a donation is given to a school for a specific purpose that was dictated by the body giving the donation, the district must use the funds in the described manner. If a private body/individual donates money and stipulates that it is for extra coahes, the HC, etc., then the school district has to use the cash to the intended purpose. I believe this is how the HC at Bellevue HS in Bellevue, Washington gets paid 60k a year just to coach (he is not a teacher).
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Post by tom12 on Jan 13, 2007 14:15:37 GMT -6
Washington:
190 students in the school (grades 9-12)
35 kids on the team - "JV" consists of those kids who do not play much on Friday nights
3 paid HS coaches, 1 volunteer
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Post by coachpoe on Jan 13, 2007 16:05:23 GMT -6
Missouri, Class 3 (out of 6)
270 students (all boys)
Varsity/JV (grades 10-12) about 60-70 players, 7 paid coaches
Freshman, 30-35 players, 4 paid coaches
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Post by phantom on Jan 13, 2007 20:30:50 GMT -6
How many coaches do you have on your staff? I am mainly asking high school staffs. How many paid coaches? Volunteer coaches? Off campus paid coaches? and how many kids in your school? We have just over 800 kids. We had around 55 in the varsity program and 35 in the freshmen program. We had 4 volunteer coaches, two of which were the freshmen coaches. The other two are varsity coaches (OC and OL). We have the HC and 4 paid assistants. So there is a total of 9 coaches for the entire football program. A total of 9 coaches for 90 kids. If it were not for the volunteer coaches then it would be only 5 coaches for 90 kids. How many of you have to deal with this? They would not hire coaches this year. The HC and the administration were at each other's throats early in the year. Now that we just finished up a 13-1 season losing only in the semis to the 30 game winning streak state champs, their tune is changing a bit. Some people in the community are posting on our local message board that the coaches should stop complaining about this and about that. But the fact is, we passed a bond issue to partially rebuild our campus and refurbish the rest. This was right before the hurricanes hit. Now that the cost of building materials went up, they had to make cuts. So they cut out all of the money for the football stadium and the gym where our locker rooms and weight rooms are. They are building a brand new gym over at the other side of campus. The thing is, this old gym was built in 1938. The stadium was built in the 40's. The pressbox was also built in the 40's. We have sewage pipes running through the top of our dressing rooms. They leak at times. We have to move the other team around during playoffs because the place where we normally put them does not have hot water for the showers. Its pretty sad that the kids cannot even have a place that they can be proud of. Virginia AAA (highest classification) About 1300 kids 8 coaches; 5 paid; 2 paid off campus (I'm one of them); no freshman program. |
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