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Post by flycoach on Apr 6, 2007 21:11:00 GMT -6
I would like your guys opinion on a "sensitive" subject....discipline. My first year, last year, with our High School team we were really fighting against the grain in the discipline department.
The old coach allowed the players to: 1. Skip practice all week and play on Friday nights with little injuries. 2. Show up to practice late with no consequences. 3. Had "ZERO" respect with the players.
We battled with the Seniors and Juniors all year long but I believe that they got the point. We benched them for halfs and games. My question to you guys is our Fresh, Sophs, and Juniors are good kids would do anything for the coaches, eachother and the program it's the 2-3 Seniors that I am worried about.
Would you guys maintain a hard line level playing field approach. Allowing the Seniors to "cruise by" or
Call the Seniors in and tell all of them we are going to hold them to a higher standard....be tougher on them because they are to be the leaders of this team. I see the risk with #2 would be that we as coaches are not being "fair".
I feel alot better with #2 now having typed it out. I think thats what I'll do if they don't want to do it our way they can turn in their pads.
Thanks for listening ;D
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Post by jjkuenzel on Apr 6, 2007 21:14:33 GMT -6
Mean what you say, say what you mean. You may have to run off a few kids but so be it. Sometimes you have to lose a battle so you can win the war.
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Post by coachf on Apr 6, 2007 21:20:41 GMT -6
larrymoe and I went through this 2 years ago. It made for a really rough year, but things are much better now. Sometimes you have to eat a year to make a point.
Bottom line- Don't let the players dictate the path of your team.
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 6, 2007 22:12:27 GMT -6
Agreed with coachf. You can't let 2 dicks ruin your program. If you have to run them off, then by all means run them off. If you allow those 2-3 kids to slide then you'll be dealing with this the rest of your tenure there. As Barney Fife used to say "You got to nip it in the bud". coachf- I'm glad I could bite the bullet for your happiness. Did you also realize that before this post you had like the last 10 posts straight?
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Post by coachf on Apr 6, 2007 22:39:24 GMT -6
I am on a roll tonight. The truth- Our school now has some blocker for certain words, so I can't get onto half of the threads because of various words. The stupid blocker wouldn't let me on FoxNews or Weather.com. It is crazy. So I am doing some catching up while I am at the in-laws. BTW, you didn't bite the bullet for my happiness- you did see our record last year.
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 6, 2007 22:52:57 GMT -6
OK, maybe not happiness, but maybe peace of mind. How many times did you get threatened with a lawsuit or accused of ruining children's lives? Any fight challenges this year?
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Post by coachf on Apr 6, 2007 23:10:48 GMT -6
No fight challenges this year. I do miss that. The worst thing we have now is the "other coach" in town. And the ladies who yell at me for letting their kids out at 5:15 when it says on the schedule 5:30. I thought I was being nice letting it end early. Apparently, that is not the case here.
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Post by coachjim on Apr 6, 2007 23:38:33 GMT -6
I can sympathize coach, we had the same problem last year only the difference was that there was only 15 kids on the squad. Every game we held our breath just to get 11 kids to show. They came late to practice, sluffed on excercises, and had run of the mill. We couldn't "run off" anyone or we'd be forfeiting games.
I like your #2 suggestion. Put some of the responsibility on the older kids to motivate and police the problem kids and at least that will remove some of the stress from you. Maybe even give your captain the privelage of giving out a reward at the end of each week to the kid that practiced the hardest such as a team shirt or team ball.
Good luck, let us know how your season turns out.
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 7, 2007 8:38:24 GMT -6
No fights? What did that guy not get drunk enough and PO'd enough about you not playing his son at a position the kid didn't want to play? You know you shouldn't have let them out 15 mins early, but there sure would've been he-- to pay if you had let them out 15 mins late too.
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Post by coachf on Apr 7, 2007 11:26:46 GMT -6
The fighting Dad will not be a problem for a couple of games this year. The young boy got himself into some trouble. Won't say it out loud, but...
Like Father, Like Son.
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 7, 2007 17:55:41 GMT -6
Shocking. He has such fine role models at home to learn from. Talk about a good kid who had zero chance of continuing that way. I thought for a minute he was going to be the father of a dual US/German citizen.
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Post by fbdoc on Apr 9, 2007 18:30:54 GMT -6
Flycoach - you have the right idea. Bring the seniors in and tell them you NEED them to be the right kind of role models for the rest of the team. Tell them you KNOW that they can do it and that in addition to helping the team (and themselves) that they can also cement their own legacy in the histroy of the program by helping this year be one of the best of many yet to come. At the same time, tell them the consequences that lay in store for ALL players who choose not to follow the rules of the team. The team always comes first. If they buy into it, great. If not, then the team will survive, and possibly thrive, without them.
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Post by flycoach on Apr 9, 2007 21:09:49 GMT -6
fbdoc-Well put. Thank all of you for your input on the matter. Whenever I post something on here each thought is looked at from 100 different angles, I love that. And since I don't know when I'm going to use this emoticon I'll use it now
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