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Post by Wingtman on Oct 24, 2017 8:09:16 GMT -6
Last Friday Night, we were on the wrong end of a blowout (again). Had a kid take a hit on a interception return. Trainer brought him to our sideline, evaluated him with NOT having a concussion. We sat the kid out awhile, then asked him if he wanted to play (last game, kid is a senior). He said yes. Kid returned to the field, was able to play, no problems. Got off the bus at home, hey Kid, you feeling alright? Ya coach, I'm good. Monday rolls around, kid tells nurse at school he got hit on the head, nurse says he has a concussion. Mind you, we are a military school with drill and PT at 6 am, and some kids play the system to get out of stuff. Mom is called and livid that kid wasn't taken to ER. Wants to know why her son played with a head injury, and if he was hit so hard, why was he playing?
Question is, did I do something wrong? Trainer cleared kid, we asked him if he wanted to go back in, as it was his final game ever. He was able to remember all plays, etc.. just wondering if I'm liable for anything and if I shouldn't have played the kid.
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Post by crock1615 on Oct 24, 2017 8:26:52 GMT -6
it may be different from state to state, but what you did would have been following the concussion protocol in my state. If the trainer suspects a concussion a player can't return until cleared by a MD. But if the trainer does not feel it is a concussion on the sideline and clears him to return then the coach has done what the policy says.
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Post by StraightFlexin on Oct 24, 2017 8:29:57 GMT -6
You are not a medical professional and you relied on a medical professional (trainer) to do their job. I would think you would be fine. Imagine if it was a fractured leg. Trainer went through their examination and gave them the clear. Kid showed no signs or complaints. A week later they found out it was broken. Not your fault.
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Post by chidesta on Oct 24, 2017 8:33:39 GMT -6
Yeah you should be fine, the fight is between the Trainer and the Nurse. Also it would be good to ask the Mom if she noticed anything over the weekend with the kid, if she didn't notice anything over the weekend then how are you guys supposed to notice anything in the limited time you are with him? Outside of observing him during the game and the bus ride.
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Post by Wingtman on Oct 24, 2017 8:36:21 GMT -6
We are a boarding school, so mom hasn't seen him. All mom knows is what junior told her, and the hit she saw on HUDL (which her son shared with her).
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Post by **** on Oct 24, 2017 11:25:57 GMT -6
Last Friday Night, we were on the wrong end of a blowout (again). Had a kid take a hit on a interception return. Trainer brought him to our sideline, evaluated him with NOT having a concussion. We sat the kid out awhile, then asked him if he wanted to play (last game, kid is a senior). He said yes. Kid returned to the field, was able to play, no problems. Got off the bus at home, hey Kid, you feeling alright? Ya coach, I'm good. Monday rolls around, kid tells nurse at school he got hit on the head, nurse says he has a concussion. Mind you, we are a military school with drill and PT at 6 am, and some kids play the system to get out of stuff. Mom is called and livid that kid wasn't taken to ER. Wants to know why her son played with a head injury, and if he was hit so hard, why was he playing? Question is, did I do something wrong? Trainer cleared kid, we asked him if he wanted to go back in, as it was his final game ever. He was able to remember all plays, etc.. just wondering if I'm liable for anything and if I shouldn't have played the kid. I would've done the same thing you did. I don't think you should be held liable. Trainer cleared him. Kid said yes I'm good, I want to play. Kid wants out of PT at 6 am IMO.
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Post by freezeoption on Oct 24, 2017 17:56:53 GMT -6
I wouldn't worry, your trainer said ok, but in the future even if the trainer says ok I might still keep him out.
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Post by bartimus58 on Oct 26, 2017 21:42:52 GMT -6
Our trainers are super cautious here. They hold kids out if they say "headache." I err on the side of caution, but if the trainer says they are clear, its not on me anymore. Nurses are not trained the same in concussion protocol as a trainer or sports MD either. I had a mom call me pissed off that I didn't call her immediately after her son jammed his thumb doing a box jump (not the most athletic move). I told her it was a sprain and to ice it. She took him to urgent care and demanded x-rays. Low and behold, it was a sprain.
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