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Post by cookiemonster on Jun 20, 2005 18:42:21 GMT -6
:DWhat system do you use to get into each formation. we have 5 basic formations and then each position has tags to move them. Example:RB is moved by numbers OT OG C OG OT 9 7 5 4 6 8 3 2
Example:FB is moved by letters and words OT OG C OG OT LOB LOU L R Ralph Rob A B
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Post by cookiemonster on Jun 20, 2005 18:44:31 GMT -6
Sorry that turned out like that but that is not even close to what it looked like before I posted it.
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Post by tog on Jun 20, 2005 21:17:19 GMT -6
that's pretty much how we do it allows you to get a ton of looks without having all the kids learn a bunch of names
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Oz1
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Post by Oz1 on Jun 21, 2005 8:12:53 GMT -6
we call our formations by colors for example green is our I formation silver is double twins
then we can tag them to change the formations even more ex. silver gun close puts the qb in gun, and brings the twins close to the tackles
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Post by Coach Huey on Jun 28, 2005 12:18:50 GMT -6
i like the idea of having a minimal amount of memorization required by each player. after all, that is what formations are....memorized spots on the field. i break things down into "base" formations then have ways to "move" certain people. a standard pro set (I backfield) is "R" or "L". TE goes to the letter. moving the fullback to a wing position is done by adding the term "wing". so "R Wing". I don't see the point in giving that formation a completely new name when all you are doing is having one person line up differently. this is the premise behind the system we use. used to use numbers, then cute little words to do this. but, we found, that we never talked to our kids like, "ok, when we get into R1 they do this" we always seemed to say it like, "they play a wing like this". plus, our kids learn defensive positions as well and these are terms defensive coaches were using. made the carry-over and the learning curve much more favorable. below are some of my "base" formations with the possible "move" calls:
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hawke
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Post by hawke on Jun 29, 2005 12:59:37 GMT -6
Call the formation always to the right side using colors, names, animals, etc. Then if you want the formation left, just add the word left. If you worry about too many "names" just take as et and use a word to deignate a wide flanker or split or both. Example. Black (2 back (HB/FB) double tightends, tight wing. Black wide double TEs with wide flanker. Black split - tight wing with SE opposite. Black Pro - SE and wide flanker to TE. What formation left just say Black Left.... Hawke
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hawke
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Post by hawke on Jun 29, 2005 13:01:29 GMT -6
Call the formation always to the right side using colors, names, animals, etc. Then if you want the formation left, just add the word left. If you worry about too many "names" just take a set and use a word to designate a wide flanker or split or both. Example. Black (2 back (HB/FB) double tightends, tight wing. Black wide double TEs with wide flanker. Black split - tight wing with SE opposite. Black Pro - SE and wide flanker to TE. Want formation left just say Black Left.... Hawke
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Post by coachcalande on Jun 29, 2005 13:05:15 GMT -6
being somewhat of a smart arse, we have one formation...lol. with kids, i think its nice if the name of the formation gives them a picture of not only the alignment but also the power/philosophy of the formation....
rhino lion lightning thunder beast bronco blazer baffle
stuff like that...same with motion...
rocket/lazer
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SlipScreen
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Post by SlipScreen on Jun 29, 2005 13:59:39 GMT -6
We call the backfield set-up first [I, gun, rifle(2 back gun)] Then the formation(pro, twins, slot) and side. Our x and y receivers never change sides so our flanker is the adjuster for 2 back sets. For 4 wide formations, our x and y still remain on their sides as do the flanker and FB, unless a trips set is called, in which case the FB is always the receiver closest to last man LOS and the flanker is the next receiver out.
So formations sound like I pro right, gun slot left, Rifle twins right
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Post by gamedog on Jul 14, 2005 20:21:55 GMT -6
The West coast stuff like Oz is in is pretty simple to learn. The easiest I think I have heard is Wolforth Frenship. They use numbers. Each number is a formation. They can tag "switch, move, exchange" and stuff to get even more stuff going on. Pretty cool stuff if you have ever heard there OC talk.
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kakavian
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Post by kakavian on Jul 21, 2005 19:19:08 GMT -6
We will either do it by color for the whole formation, and call left/right or we will use color as the back field formation and a word for the front formation. Then we would add any motion or shifts. I.E. Red Rt. 38 Rocket Toss for the other style we used it would be: Red Wing Rt, (Red Pro Rt, Red Slot Rt, Red Twins Rt, etc) 38 Rocket Toss, Rocket being the motion call. Been interested in trying the Wing-T Method of assigning each formation a number i.e. 100 200 300, etc. and the using the next two numbers to designate the back and point of attack. i.e 238 Rocket Toss.
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Post by thurman on Jul 21, 2005 23:56:23 GMT -6
Man, I guess I am weird.. here is mine
Even (double twins) Spread (Twins to weak TE and flanker to strong) Trips (trips to strong and split to weak Empty (same as trips but FB goes to weak slot) Ace (double tight double flanker) Bunch (tight bunch to strong with nasty split end to weak) I (I backfield with twins to strong side and Split to weak) Load (Tackle over flexed in 2pt stance to strong side, Split end 5 yard outside of tackle.. tight slot between flexed tackle and regular tackle.. flanker splitting difference between tackle and split end.. TE tacking weakside tackle's place.. FB in backfield Circus (almost same as load, but tight slot and FB are flanked out wide to the TE side with QB in shotgun
All of these are called right or left to call strength.. Even and Ace have no strength call.. TE is always to the right and split end is always to the left.. if we sub a TE in double tight ace he will be on left.. if we sub a split in our even double twins look he goes to the right..
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Post by Coach Huey on Jul 22, 2005 6:30:49 GMT -6
we just try not to get too "cute" with it. minimize the amount of memory kids have to learn. don't see the point in calling 'Pro Right' one name then moving to "pro right twins left" would be something completely different when it is only affection one guy. that is why we use the system we use.
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