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Post by airraider on Mar 31, 2007 11:21:20 GMT -6
What are some of the worst (or smartest) things you have seen or heard of a team/coach doing to give themselves an advantage?
I have heard of people pouring sugar all over the visitor's sidelines to attrack ants.
Painting the visitor's locker room pink.
The ole leave the sprinklers on all night to slow the faster team down trick.
Sending parents to film the other team's practice.
any others?
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Post by phantom on Mar 31, 2007 11:24:46 GMT -6
Wisconsin's taking advantage of the new NCAA clock rules to run out the first half against Penn State. Although I'm a Penn State fan I don't blame Wisconsin at all. There was a loophole in the rules and they took advantage of it. That's just smart coaching.
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 31, 2007 11:41:21 GMT -6
phantom--not familiar with that incident..can you elaborate?
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Post by dubber on Mar 31, 2007 11:45:41 GMT -6
A team that wasn't in as good as shape turned the lights out on us at halftime (it takes hours for them to warm back up). We were down a score, but they knew we were a second half team. We had to come back the next day to finish. Of course I can't prove they meant to turn out the lights, but I KNOW they did  |
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Post by phantom on Mar 31, 2007 11:48:05 GMT -6
With about 40 seconds left in the first half the Badgers had to kick off to PSU. Taking advantage of the new NCAA rules that started the clock on the kick instead of when the returners catch the ball, they ran out the clock by kicking off out of bounds several times.
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Post by CVBears on Mar 31, 2007 19:42:31 GMT -6
they didn't kick the ball out of bounds, the kicking team purposefully was offsides each time. return team can't decline the penalty and it is an automatic re-kick. the kickoff team was five yards infront of the ball, running at full tilt, before it was kicked.
say what you will, but it was a great way to work the rules in your favor. Joe Pa was a little pissed of to say the least.
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Post by briangilbert on Mar 31, 2007 20:54:23 GMT -6
My SR year in HS myself and another captain would go into the visiting locker room and take out every roll of toilet paper and brown paper... Our athletic director found out about it after week 4, so we'd take it out wait for him to put more in, then go in there again and take it again... That was our home field advantage.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2007 6:49:09 GMT -6
Talked to a coach at a clinic who said when they played in their state title game on the road the home team had left the sprinklers on the field for what must've been a few days to slow things up. Home team didn't feel like they could keep up I guess and wanted a wet field.
The guy said that when he asked the other coach about it the guy said, "we've had rain for a few days." The only puddles in town were on that field and the newspaper reported a trace of precip.
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Post by touchdowng on Apr 1, 2007 9:59:51 GMT -6
I've had players use carpet tape - the 2 sided sticky stuff - between their jerseys and their shoulder pads. They still got tackled though.
One time we played in a state qtr final game at a very hostile stadium.
We dressed at the nearby junior high - about a 2 minute walk from that locker room to the field. The game manager wanted us to use the team room below the home grandstand for our halftime meeting area. Luckily, we checked it out during pregame and found out that it was right below their student section, was about 8' across by 30' long and no white or chalk board. Just a couple of benches. There was no way we were going to fit 55 players and 10 coaches into those confines and get anything accomplished. I told the game manager (the AD from the opposing school) that we would do our halftime back at the Junior high. This really ticked him off and said that nobody had ever done that before. Then we would be the first.
We won the game 3-0 and halftime was big for us as we had to make at least two major defensive adjustments. The opposing team had been averaging 40 points a game and was ranked 1st in state at the time.
I often wonder how well we would have done if we would have attempted to do halftime below the noisy student section.
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Post by brophy on Apr 1, 2007 10:14:14 GMT -6
I've had players use carpet tape - the 2 sided sticky stuff - between their jerseys and their shoulder pads. the stuff works if you're a lineman. |
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Post by coachvaughn on Apr 1, 2007 10:48:36 GMT -6
We used to take the jersey of our running back, who was a very light guy, and had the sides of it sown tight so when he ran you could not grab him by his jersey flapping behind him. Good way to solve that problem
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Post by ted916 on Apr 1, 2007 11:03:17 GMT -6
Played a team this passed season that was extremely good on both sides of the ball. The first 3 weeks were averaging over 40/game (using the DW), and holding teams to under 10 points per game. Defensively, the liked to substitute role players every play based on down & distance. We were severely outmanned. We thought the only chance we had was to short the game, and keep them from subbing liberally, so we put in what we called the "hurry up & stall" offense. We went to a no-huddle and were ready to snap the ball for each play as soon as the ref blew it in play. Then the offense just stood there for the full 25 seconds and snapped the ball with 2 seconds on the play clock. We were tied 7-7 at the half, 10 -10 at the end of the 3rd, and lost 13-10 on a 37 yd FG with about 2 minutes left. Although we certainly were not one of the better teams they played, and we only gained 4 first downs all game, we took them out of their game, and actually gave them the best game of the season.
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Post by coachbw on Apr 1, 2007 11:26:34 GMT -6
Touchdown, we had a similar one this year. The opposing AD tried to keep us on the field in an endzone during halftime. Normally it wouldn't have been a huge deal, as I know that many of the smaller schools around here do that. The only problem was that it was their homecoming and they had all of their pagentry going one at halftime. Plus . . . their team went inside!!! I told my kids to climb the fence, run through the gate, whatever they had to do to get inside.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Apr 1, 2007 11:47:45 GMT -6
I've had players use carpet tape - the 2 sided sticky stuff - between their jerseys and their shoulder pads. the stuff works if you're a lineman. Hell yeah...did it all through college. It's definitley NOT a low down tactic though. Now a LEG WHIP on the other hand... |
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Post by phantom on Apr 1, 2007 11:52:58 GMT -6
Talked to a coach at a clinic who said when they played in their state title game on the road the home team had left the sprinklers on the field for what must've been a few days to slow things up. Home team didn't feel like they could keep up I guess and wanted a wet field. The guy said that when he asked the other coach about it the guy said, "we've had rain for a few days." The only puddles in town were on that field and the newspaper reported a trace of precip. We had a team do that to us in a playoff game a few years ago. We sent a couple of coaches ahead the day before with a truck with the equipment and they saw the sprinklers going. When you stepped on to the field you sank down to your ankles. Didn't work, though. |
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Post by Yash on Apr 1, 2007 12:58:16 GMT -6
We had a team in our conference that played on a half baseball diamond. of course, second base was right on your sidelines. No matter what the weather, that dirt infield that was on your sideline was always a mud puddle. ticked you off more than anything. never wore new shoes when you played against them.
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Post by knight9299 on Apr 1, 2007 13:11:32 GMT -6
the stuff works if you're a lineman. Hell yeah...did it all through college. It's definitley NOT a low down tactic though. Now a LEG WHIP on the other hand... Used it in college too. When I was a frosh in college the senior 3 tech sprayed the armpit of his jersey with silicone spray. |
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Post by briangilbert on Apr 1, 2007 16:12:50 GMT -6
My personal favorite happened in 8th grade. Our best DL who was 6'0 170lbs for a 8th grade NT would soak his armpads in Garlic... He reeked and the 8th grade OL we played against didn't want to touch him. To this day I have no idea if that's legal or not.
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Post by dubber on Apr 1, 2007 20:29:48 GMT -6
My personal favorite happened in 8th grade. Our best DL who was 6'0 170lbs for a 8th grade NT would soak his armpads in Garlic... He reeked and the 8th grade OL we played against didn't want to touch him. To this day I have no idea if that's legal or not. I sometimes wouldn't brush my teeth the day before a game......breathed on the rb everytime I hit him |
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Post by averageblkmale on Apr 1, 2007 21:09:24 GMT -6
Played a team that went no huddle with hand signals. The week before we played them we videotaped the HC making signals and broke them down during the week and showed them to the kids. During the game our defense would all look at the HC make his signals so we knew what they were running. Shut them out 22-0
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Post by coachvann on Apr 1, 2007 21:21:29 GMT -6
When I was coaching down in texas our head coach would always have us put a barrale of coke products and carbonated stuff in the visitor's locker room and keep watered down gatorade in ours. We always would know when a team would take the stuff...they always started to cramp. Gave us a couple of wins.
Don't know if it was an underhanded tactic, but more of a stupid move on the other team's coach that we took advantage of.
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Post by coachjim on Apr 8, 2007 17:28:01 GMT -6
Diclaimer: Your going to cringe, but here goes:
In '81 we went to the State Championship game. All year long our coaching staff had made "suggestions" of ways to cheat and encouraged it. We had enough talent so that we won fair and square but these are the things they taught us and during the Championship Game, told us to do:
Throw dirt in the faces of the opposing linemen. Hold the jerseys. Trip. Spit, and perhaps worse of all, helmet spear. We were eight and nine years old. Nice, huh? During halftime our cheerleaders crossed the field and brawled with the other cheerleaders. Both cheerleading squads were kicked off the field for putting gum in each other's hair. Again, these were eight and nine year olds!! Man, how times change. But back then, at least with our coaches, winning was everything.
Not to sidetrack the thread, but does anyone know if a Fullback can wear a brown arm pad on the arm where he tucks the football? No i'm not turning into my old coaching staff from the 80's but in the Wing-T, this seems like another great deception technique, if legal.
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Post by wingman on Apr 8, 2007 18:17:27 GMT -6
Painting a room pink and watering teh field are gamesmanship. Sending parents to videotape practice is flat out dishonest.
- We used to paint the linemen's gloves the color of the opponent's jersys ( we didn't coach holding though )
- We put injured guy's jerseys on other guys.
- We'll switch jerseys on players to screw up tendencies.
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Post by phantom on Apr 8, 2007 18:23:28 GMT -6
Painting a room pink and watering teh field are gamesmanship. Sending parents to videotape practice is flat out dishonest. - We used to paint the linemen's gloves the color of the opponent's jersys ( we didn't coach holding though ) - We put injured guy's jerseys on other guys. - We'll switch jerseys on players to screw up tendencies. IMO, switching jersies is not much more dishonest than filming practice. |
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Post by beatdown on Apr 8, 2007 19:04:09 GMT -6
Played and coaches against a team where the visiting teams coach's box was on the visitor side, only problem was they only put the numbers on the home side of the field, making it hard to get good tendecies.
As far as watering the field, painting locker rooms pink, or cranking the heat in a locker room those to me are all gamesmanship.
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Post by midlineqb on Apr 8, 2007 21:35:10 GMT -6
I coached with a coach that drove to our next opponent's town to mail a package and a pair of pink panties to our own team. FIRED the squad up but still got beat 7-0. The team we were playing went on to the state semifinals and we only won 1 game.
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Post by saintrad on Apr 8, 2007 22:10:53 GMT -6
well in one playoff game our seniors took it upon themselves to get several packets of ketchup and woudl squish them out of their hands as they blocked the opposing team, who was in away whites no less. To the refs it looked like blood so off came the jerseys and eventually they ran out of jerseys. HC was PO'd a bit, but after the game we got a kick out of the ingeniuity of the kids.
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