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Post by Coach Goodnight on Dec 27, 2007 20:14:57 GMT -6
Did you guys see the "member of the coaching staff" from Texas touch the ball when it was "lateraled" by ASU, after Texas recovered the ruling was overturned and ASU gets the ball 1st and goal at the 7.
I would hate to be the coach that touched the ball, people are looking at him like "man you are an Idiot"!!
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Dec 27, 2007 20:16:35 GMT -6
Now they dont know where they are putting the ball, they had to get the Rule book out and see where to spot it and what down it would be....lol... too dang funny!
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Post by theprez98 on Dec 27, 2007 20:28:00 GMT -6
"Mack Brown's step son"?!
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Post by brophy on Dec 27, 2007 20:29:59 GMT -6
I have $10 riding on my guy, Dennis Erickson, pulling the upset, so I appreciate the personal foul.
However, without turning this into a turd fan thread, I had a thought about this.....
Mack Brown is clearly beside himself with such a bonehead circumstance (however, if that GA didn't touch the ball, the position coach who was ON THE NUMBERS would've eventually interfered with the advancement of the fumble)......
two things; it illustrates the SAFETY aspect of those annoying 'sideline warnings' and the headache that officials have to deal with. STAY OUT OF THE GAME!!! That boundary exists for a reason (mainly, YOUR safety),,,so don't push the limits.
but the most relevant one....
The head coach is the be-all-end-all for the program, so when a position coach or coordinator fouls up (and knows it) should he be treated differently than a player that does the same?
I mean, Brown's step son knew he screwed up and may not even have a game duty to attend to, but if he did, should Mack Brown try to reassure him later to keep him focussed on the REST OF THE GAME (like you would iif a player did that)?
Or are you of the mind, that if someone screws up (player or coach) that you unleash on them and make them pay for impeding your game management?
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Post by dante on Dec 27, 2007 20:30:00 GMT -6
Lol! The poor guys name is apparently Chris Jesse and he's related to the Mack Daddy, but the ESPN crew didnt find out what his role is. More importantly though, it seems like this has given ASU a boost. I just hope Rudy Carpenter can get through his game having this head taken off.
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Post by fbdoc on Dec 27, 2007 20:40:07 GMT -6
I'm betting the kid had no job and obviously no business to be that close to the action! Either way, it didn't appear to slow down Texas to bad as they just scored.
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Post by dubber on Dec 27, 2007 21:03:25 GMT -6
It appears to me he was busy arguing with the officals (as were the rest of Texas' staff) and assumed they ruled it an incomplete pass and was merely scooping up the ball to toss it back to the offical.
BTW, while embarassing, this is NOT Steve Bartman level.........this is hardly an outcome decider (unless ASU mounts the comeback--------and I got 10:1 on that)
Per Sir Brophcephus' comments, If I were the HC: If this guy wasn't a family memeber, but an employee with a job still to do through out the game, then I reassure him and get him refocused.
Since it's family, I give him {censored} every chance I get
(sure I backed my truck into the garage door, but I did that in front of my family, not millions of strangers*******sure I had my fly unzipped, but at least I didn't try to relive my playing days in national TV)
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Post by brophy on Dec 27, 2007 21:09:14 GMT -6
Erickson throughout his career is classic one-back zone and the run game is usually pretty good and has a Gilman-esque passing game.
Tonight, I think there are real good examples of what happens when you become predictable in your cadence. It is one thing to not being able to protect the passer.....it is another thing when your passer is a little fundamentally sloppy in his throws.....but it is ANOTHER THING (simple thing) when you do not alter the cadence / start point of the snap. Texas is really doing a fine job timing up +5 pressures, so picking it up becomes a chore.
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Post by davecisar on Dec 28, 2007 10:05:00 GMT -6
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Post by saintrad on Dec 28, 2007 10:28:56 GMT -6
I though Mack Brown did the best "I got your back" comment when asked at half-time about the play. He basically said to us he didn't appear to touch the ball and that they needed to be aggressive and keep coming after ASU since they are a dangerous 2nd half team.
Now to get to the real point about this unfortunate incident came at half time from Mark May: he said that was a failure of the coaching staff to maintain sideline discpline and that is the role of the get-back coach. As brophy pointed out, if they didnt call the unsportsmanlike on the one coach they surely would have called it on the other coach and players standing in the field of play watching the ball bounce.
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Post by coachjimmer on Dec 28, 2007 10:38:11 GMT -6
It appears to me he was busy arguing with the officals (as were the rest of Texas' staff) and assumed they ruled it an incomplete pass and was merely scooping up the ball to toss it back to the offical. The coach used his arm movements to tell the officials the pass was grounding. Even the referee thought the pass was grounding when he threw his yellow flag.
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Post by davecisar on Dec 28, 2007 11:04:49 GMT -6
I though Mack Brown did the best "I got your back" comment when asked at half-time about the play. He basically said to us he didn't appear to touch the ball and that they needed to be aggressive and keep coming after ASU since they are a dangerous 2nd half team. Now to get to the real point about this unfortunate incident came at half time from Mark May: he said that was a failure of the coaching staff to maintain sideline discpline and that is the role of the get-back coach. As brophy pointed out, if they didnt call the unsportsmanlike on the one coach they surely would have called it on the other coach and players standing in the field of play watching the ball bounce. MAck Brown. class act. Up in Huskerland, we dont like the longhorns but we do like Mack Brown.
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