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Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 10:26:32 GMT -6
Post by coachneria on Mar 19, 2008 10:26:32 GMT -6
Terrelle pryor chose Ohio State.
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Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 10:30:00 GMT -6
Post by coachnichols on Mar 19, 2008 10:30:00 GMT -6
NO!!! NO!!! NO!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!wonder how long this thread lasts???
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Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 10:55:08 GMT -6
Post by dubber on Mar 19, 2008 10:55:08 GMT -6
wonder how long this thread lasts??? 3.................2..................1....................
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Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 11:30:32 GMT -6
Post by morris on Mar 19, 2008 11:30:32 GMT -6
Does anyone know anything but the offense he played in? We looked at his numbers today an dit came out to him throwing about 7 passes a game. He also rushed for close to 2000 yrds
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Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 12:23:53 GMT -6
Post by superpower on Mar 19, 2008 12:23:53 GMT -6
To keep the thread alive, how would you use Pryor? What kind of offense would you run?
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Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 12:54:20 GMT -6
Post by pantherpride91 on Mar 19, 2008 12:54:20 GMT -6
To keep the thread alive, how would you use Pryor? What kind of offense would you run? I am hoping Coach Tressel takes a look at how Florida used tebow and leak a couple years back....He has a good experienced starter coming back (much like leak) and bull at tailback in wells He did some interesting stuff when he had teddy ginn in town and I am sure he will have some things cooked up for pryor If anyone wants to take a look at his senior highlights here is a good link...Ran alot of spread but also looks like they threw some veer in there as well... www.scoutingohio.com/Terrelle_Pryor_Bucknuts_Highlights.htm
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Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 12:57:34 GMT -6
Post by superpower on Mar 19, 2008 12:57:34 GMT -6
He would be awesome in the single wing.
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Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 12:59:46 GMT -6
Post by dubber on Mar 19, 2008 12:59:46 GMT -6
To keep the thread alive, how would you use Pryor? What kind of offense would you run? WVU's offense, though he probably chose Ohio State because they run a more pro-oriented offense than will Michigan.
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Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 13:09:03 GMT -6
Post by coachbdud on Mar 19, 2008 13:09:03 GMT -6
he is a natural fit for Rodriguez in Michigan
But he is obviously concerned with going Pro, and Ohio state will give him a better chance at doing that by running a more pro style offense
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Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 13:12:14 GMT -6
Post by ramsoc on Mar 19, 2008 13:12:14 GMT -6
Does anyone know anything but the offense he played in? We looked at his numbers today an dit came out to him throwing about 7 passes a game. He also rushed for close to 2000 yrds It was Zone Read, with some Power I here and there. Lot of option or just straight QB runs.
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Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 13:33:36 GMT -6
Post by bluecrazy on Mar 19, 2008 13:33:36 GMT -6
Go Blue!
Sorry, could not resist. Michigan will be ok.
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Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 17:18:33 GMT -6
Post by briangilbert on Mar 19, 2008 17:18:33 GMT -6
Michigan is NOT going to be OK! Seriously... Wow Richy Rich better make sure he's not the next Charlie Domer!
As for what Ohio State can do with him...
I'm fairly certain Ohio State can still run Inside Zone, Outside Zone and Power out of the spread right? I say let the best guy play next fall. If it's the Freshman then so be it.
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Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 17:39:21 GMT -6
Post by airman on Mar 19, 2008 17:39:21 GMT -6
michigan had been eliminated before the signing day.
I am not a michigan fan but I think coach rod will turn michigan around. he is not from the schembeckler tribe which past coaches have been from. He is a outsider with different ideas how to run a program especially a strength program.
Michigan's problem clearly was the lack of conditioning. they would tired as the season wore on.
As a Big Ten fan, I look forward to seeing the ohio state/michigan battle being renewed to the woody and bo days.
Before Ohio State fans pat themselves on the back too much, remember John Cooper. It was not that offly long ago when Ohio State was headed to being a average program and could not beat Michigan.
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Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 22:17:10 GMT -6
Post by khalfie on Mar 19, 2008 22:17:10 GMT -6
To keep the thread alive, how would you use Pryor? What kind of offense would you run? I'd put him in the lower case L... Ask Loch, those that aren't up on this revolutionary offense... Can't believe the kid didn't go to Michigan... says a lot about his state of mind, his belief in his level of preparedness... especially since he's willing to sit behind last years starter to gain experience.. and possibly lose the position he's never had. At Mich... or even P state for that matter... he was guaranteed to get an extensive look at the QB position, and the start, if he showed a glimpse of promise. Lower case L my friends...
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Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 23:26:17 GMT -6
Post by coachd5085 on Mar 19, 2008 23:26:17 GMT -6
How much if any does vince youngs sophmore year flop with the Titans have to do with this?
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Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 23:32:50 GMT -6
Post by coachbdud on Mar 19, 2008 23:32:50 GMT -6
michigan had been eliminated before the signing day. How? He announced earlier this week that he had narrowed his decision down to just Mich and Ohio State
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Pryor
Mar 20, 2008 6:17:09 GMT -6
Post by bluecrazy on Mar 20, 2008 6:17:09 GMT -6
I think he played it out for the attention. He is a very good player, but only one player. Last I knew it took 11 men on the field. If Michigan can figure out how to stop, or even slow down the spread, they will be competitive.
I also think the 1st year or maybe even 2 will be hard on Michigan fans. Coach Rod will have to get the speed in to run his system. But, the cupboard is not totally bare.
Would it have been nice to get him? Yes, but Michigan has to play on.
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Pryor
Mar 20, 2008 8:12:36 GMT -6
Post by pantherpride91 on Mar 20, 2008 8:12:36 GMT -6
I think he played it out for the attention. He is a very good player, but only one player. Last I knew it took 11 men on the field. If Michigan can figure out how to stop, or even slow down the spread, they will be competitive. I also think the 1st year or maybe even 2 will be hard on Michigan fans. Coach Rod will have to get the speed in to run his system. But, the cupboard is not totally bare. Would it have been nice to get him? Yes, but Michigan has to play on. Look at what one player did for Florida a couple years ago....I believe if you develop the right system around them and you get that player at the right position, esp. QB, than he can make a huge impact..... I can not wait to see what coach tress and his staff is going to try and do with him....Two years ago he ran alot of spread with ginn, gonzo, and smith....last year he went back to a pro-I set most of the time and had great success with that.... He will be earning his paycheck when he figures out how to use this guy.....The OSU spring clinic is in a couple weeks....hopefully someone up there with divulge some info on possible plans how they will use him in the scheme
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coachpodach
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Pryor
Mar 20, 2008 8:22:57 GMT -6
Post by coachpodach on Mar 20, 2008 8:22:57 GMT -6
If you were Pryor would you trust this guy?
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Pryor
Mar 20, 2008 8:29:02 GMT -6
Post by spos21ram on Mar 20, 2008 8:29:02 GMT -6
I heard one thing that played in his decsision was that in PA where he is from there are a lot of WVU fans and Rich Rod is not a very liked man in those parts. Like the previous post stated I don't think he could trust him.
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Pryor
Mar 20, 2008 8:58:28 GMT -6
Post by bluecrazy on Mar 20, 2008 8:58:28 GMT -6
So a coach moves to better himself. Happens every year. Who is to say that any coach will be in the same spot next year, that they are now. Happens in the NFL-College-high School-Pee Wee. Some people just can't go on with life. Change happens. Not everyone gets their recruit. You move on. Just like High school, you play with kids you have. Yes, I'm sure that ohio state will work around the kid once he proofs himself. I'm not saying they won't. Tressel is very good at what he dose. I'm just saying that with Michigan loosing a recruit, they will move on, and yes will be OK. Hey Coachnichols, has this thread gone on longer than you thought?
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Pryor
Mar 20, 2008 9:25:16 GMT -6
Post by airman on Mar 20, 2008 9:25:16 GMT -6
I personally believe he went to ohio state because OSU is a more traditional offense compared to what U of MI. is going to run.
IN the the nfl spread qb are looked down up. qb have to play undercenter and they do not feel spread shotgun qb make the transition. Then there is the anti shotgun mentality in the nfl. Then again the NFL is like family tree which does not branch.
Mike Holmgren, who used to be the Green Bay Packers head coach does not believe in the shotgun. Interesting how when Holmgren left the Packers started to use the shotgun. Brett Favre wanted to use it. Holmgren always had lame excuses like the ball being snapped over the head of the qb. this past season look how much Brett Favre was in the shot gun. It was a lot of the time.
Back to Pryor. He wants to be a classic dropback qb and that is why he chose OSU. He certainly has the height and weight requirements. now work on his footwork and mechanics and he will be a tom brady or patyon manning style qb. The worst think OSU could do is adopt the spread offense just for him.
I really think OSU should visit wisconsin and the indy colts. this way they could use his feet on the bootleg package. Wisconsin has gone to an athletic qb but in the structure of a dropback passer. WIsconisn ran a ton of boot action since paul cryst came as the oc. I could see Pryor being really good at this. the colts run boot pullup with manning.
I really believe Pryor could be a great dropback passer in the mode of Doug WIlliams if handled right.
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Pryor
Mar 20, 2008 9:30:35 GMT -6
Post by knight9299 on Mar 20, 2008 9:30:35 GMT -6
To keep the thread alive, how would you use Pryor? I'd probably play him at FS, maybe WILL backer, heck maybe even a rush DE. What in the world at are you guys talking about? Ohio State and "Pro QB" are words that are illegal to use in the same sentence. Ohio State has never produced a quality Pro QB...except Kenny Rodgers and he was average. I was thinking the same thing- but I don't have an extensive knowledge of Ohio State players. I figured it was just one of those urban legends.
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Pryor
Mar 20, 2008 9:35:38 GMT -6
Post by airman on Mar 20, 2008 9:35:38 GMT -6
To keep the thread alive, how would you use Pryor? I'd probably play him at FS, maybe WILL backer, heck maybe even a rush DE. What in the world at are you guys talking about? Ohio State and "Pro QB" are words that are illegal to use in the same sentence. Ohio State has never produced a quality Pro QB...except Kenny Rodgers and he was average. Ohio state runs more of a pro style offense compared to Michigan who is going to run the spread option.
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Pryor
Mar 20, 2008 9:49:30 GMT -6
Post by ghscoach on Mar 20, 2008 9:49:30 GMT -6
Ohio state runs more of a pro style offense compared to Michigan who is going to run the spread option. How do you explain the fact that U of M was not even really a consideration for Pryor until RR was named coach there? If he wanted to develop the drop back pro aspect of his game then Michigan should have been a strong contender before the coaching change and they were not.
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Pryor
Mar 20, 2008 9:58:46 GMT -6
Post by airman on Mar 20, 2008 9:58:46 GMT -6
maybe he did not care for lloyd carr or he say michigan was a team in decline under lloyd carr. KIds have alsorts of reason. I know a kid who went to a particular school because on his over night visit he hooked up with a couple girls. I know kids who went to one school because they like the coach but it was not in there best interest in overall development if they wanted to go to the nfl.
I am merely just pointing out the fact ohio state runs an offense more like the pros then michigan is going to. also, the nfl anti spread offense to start with. look at colt brennen. nfl scouts are saying his stats are skewed because he played in june jones system. now i am not saying colt brennen is a great qb at all. I am just saying what the nfl says about spread qbs. they coined the term "system qb" to explain those who play for guys like spurrier, leach or jones.
then we most consider maybe he did not like the high school system which he played in.
these are just my opinions. I could and most likely am wrong.
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Pryor
Mar 20, 2008 11:03:00 GMT -6
Post by wingt74 on Mar 20, 2008 11:03:00 GMT -6
just watched some highlights on the kid. Big strong fast with a strong arm.
That's 25% of it.
Can he pass a class? Is he responsible? Can he read a D1 defense? Can he learn a D1 offense? Can his body hold up to a D1 season?
Someone with lesser physical skills can and will start over him if he is dumb. Simple truth.
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Pryor
Mar 20, 2008 11:20:11 GMT -6
Post by spos21ram on Mar 20, 2008 11:20:11 GMT -6
I'm not buying the "he went to Ohio St. cause they run a more pro-style offense" bit at all. If you're strength is athleticism and mobility then why in the world would you go to an offense that doesn't feature this? Ofcourse I'm sure Ohio St. would add some packages to fit his ability but then how would that differ from a spread offense. It won't. Couldn't he have chosen Ohio St. because he felt it had a better overall program?
So what you guys are saying is that if Matt Ryan played at Hawaii instead of BC and put up numbers as good or better than Brennan then he too would be projected as a 4th or 5th round instead of #1?? So you have they same player, Matt Ryan, same skills, great numbers, but because if he went to Hawaii instead of BC is rating would change?
Prior could actually hurt is NFL aspirations by trying to be too much of a pocket passer if that's not really his identity.
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Pryor
Mar 20, 2008 16:26:17 GMT -6
Post by coachd5085 on Mar 20, 2008 16:26:17 GMT -6
just watched some highlights on the kid. Big strong fast with a strong arm. That's 25% of it. Can he pass a class? Is he responsible? Can he read a D1 defense? Can he learn a D1 offense? Can his body hold up to a D1 season? Someone with lesser physical skills can and will start over him if he is dumb. Simple truth. I am betting no. LSU is dealing with the "Terrell Pryor" of the 2005 signing class. The prima donna type who have "never" done anything wrong and have always had crutches and excuses. Once they are held accountable, it crumbles. Reading Meat Market...and from my experiences coaching at the 1-aa level..dangerous dangerous type. Just remember, every single recruiting class is filled with can't miss wonderkinds...there will be one again next year, and then the next, and the next...
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Pryor
Mar 20, 2008 19:24:12 GMT -6
Post by raiderpirates on Mar 20, 2008 19:24:12 GMT -6
The next Bobby Hoying!
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