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Post by flexspread on May 8, 2007 10:48:58 GMT -6
I was wondering what everyone's ideal job situation would be? Obviously most of us would prefer to have a supportive administration, supportive parents who understood coaches know best, and incredible selfless hardworking athletes who are there to better the program and not just out for their own glory...that aside, what is your ideal situation? What kind of town, school size, how many assistants, would you coach both sides of the ball, how many people to attend games, what type of media coverage?
When I got into coaching I wanted largest classification, which usually means fairly large city, tons of assistants and delegate everything other than playcalling and coaching QBs as we challenge for a national ranking year in and year out. As I get more HC experience I realize that my ideal situation is in a smaller town, possibly 5,000 people but close enough to a newspaper to get some coverage, medium sized classification, with five assistants so that I can coach QBs and call offensive plays, but roam on defense. I want to have a program that continually makes the playoffs where fans pack the stadium. The town in the movie "Radio" seems pretty nice, where everyone cares about football and has an interest. What do you guys think?
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coachvaughn
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Post by coachvaughn on May 8, 2007 10:59:01 GMT -6
Flexspread, I definitely like your idea about having just a small amount of assistants. I am finding out in my current situation that the less amount of assistants you have around you, the better off you probably are. It just makes for less ego's to deal with and you get alot more out of those guys that you know are committed to the program and the kids. Also, the small town attitude I think helps to produce athletes that are willing to work hard every day all year long, because that is all that these kids know, work.
Coach Vaughn
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Post by fbdoc on May 8, 2007 11:32:19 GMT -6
We have a lot of things that some other coaches might consider "ideal" because they don't currently have them such as great administrative support, strong boosters, good parents, and a pretty decent budget. Things we don't have that would make it ideal for me would be -
Our own stadium with lights Just ONE full time assistant who taught in the building! Real Locker Rooms instead of a MS PE changing area A district assignment where WE were not the smallest school in the land of the giants (enrollment!)
THAT would make my school ideal!
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Post by wingtol on May 8, 2007 12:32:14 GMT -6
I think it was the guy at south lake carroll but am not sure. I think he was the MIDDLE school AD. They had his schedule somehwere it was like 8:30-10--AD duties 10-11:30 film brrak down 11:30-1 Lunch 1-2:30 Film study with QB. 2:30-4:30 practice. I am pretty sure I could live with that schedule I know there was alot of pressure to win, but with their facilities and a schedule like that I would guess that would be about ideal for me
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Post by senatorblutarsky on May 8, 2007 12:42:27 GMT -6
For me... the more I think about it, I'm pretty much in an ideal situation:
7:30-9:30 Weights classes 90% of football players in class 9:30-11:30 AD 11:30-12:30 British Literature (maybe not ideal for some...) 1:00-1:50 AD 1:50-2:40 Weights class... last 10% of football players in 2:40-3:40 JH Athletic period... not much time, but I get to work with JH
Pay is good (about $5500 coaching) Our own "stadium" (field... very nice for our size of school) Huge weight room (6 squat racks, 7 benches, 5 power clean/olympic areas plus a lot of aux. stations) for our size school. 20 year playoff run (if we make it in 07... looks iffy right now though) Great support (from parents, admin., town, etc.)
I have a big school job at a small school... I have 4 paid assistant coaches (all very good coaches- 2 in building), get paid for summer weights/conditioning, have athletes who care (lack talent at the moment, but work hard).
I've had HC jobs in schools of: 2100, 350, 130... and this tiny school of 72 is the best job I've had.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2007 13:04:46 GMT -6
Yep, I feel like my spot is ideal as well. When I first started coaching I wanted to someday have the position I have at the school I'm at. It took 11 years but I got to that. Very happy. We have a great staff that communicates and respects each other. We have great kids that are willing to work and we have great boosters who help us get weight rooms, stadium upgrades, etc. We win, we have fun doing it, we turn out good kids, we help get kids to college, and we (as a coaching staff) are great friends away from it all. We fish together, travel together, go to each other's birthdays and graduations, etc. Who could ask for anything more.
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Post by spartancoach on May 8, 2007 13:28:13 GMT -6
Not one of you needs an admin asst in a short skirt and double Ds? Come on now, I thought we were talking "ideal" job?
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Post by superpower on May 8, 2007 14:04:01 GMT -6
I feel the same as several others here - I am in the ideal job! In fact, Knighter and McGown can attest to that. I have superior administrative support, a good budget (Just got new uniforms at about $12,000 and ordering new CoachComm head set system), great parents, a supportive community, an awesome old stadium with tons of character, a big weightroom, outstanding assistant coaches, and super kids who love the weightroom and are competitive and coachable and who love the Double Wing. Life is good!
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Post by fbdoc on May 8, 2007 16:24:54 GMT -6
Superpower - I was with you all the way until you said DW. Just Kidding!
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Post by coachcb on May 8, 2007 18:33:07 GMT -6
-Administrative support; preferably a former coach as the AD -Blue collar community. -community support of athletics. Doesn't have to start off with huge football support, but I want a town that's athletically oriented. -Decent stadium and field -small number of assistants -WEIGHT ROOM
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Post by superpower on May 9, 2007 7:40:41 GMT -6
Superpower - I was with you all the way until you said DW. Just Kidding! One man's trash is another man's treasure, right?
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Post by brophy on May 9, 2007 8:11:49 GMT -6
"The University of Washington!"
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Post by revtaz on May 9, 2007 8:27:51 GMT -6
Admin Support who let coaches coach.
Town Support that holds me to a high standard (Can't get better if I am not given the whip every now and then)
Preferrably a blue collar place. Kids who know how to work are the best.
Weight Room.
What would be completely ideal would be if I could spend the day teaching weights, breaking down film, and a study hall for the players to do homework.
Taz
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Post by coachseven on May 9, 2007 8:45:28 GMT -6
A place where my wife and kids are happy and excel.
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Post by tog on May 9, 2007 8:51:20 GMT -6
talent
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Post by superpower on May 9, 2007 9:23:29 GMT -6
"The University of Washington!" Now that is funny!
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Post by airman on May 9, 2007 18:13:27 GMT -6
ideal job situation would be a larger school around 1200 students so I could platoon in a town of 20 to 30,000 where you are the only school for the town to support.
a school district which takes pride in its buildings and grounds. if they have no respect for the buildings and grounds athletics will not be a high priority as well.
a school distict with a solid wrestling program. I would prefer a town with a larger german population and or irish population. these ethic groups are fairly hard working people. germans being the hardest of all the western europeon.
a good number of boys turning out for football regardless of the record.
if you are from the midwest i can sight places like winona minnesota, la crosse wi, watertown wi, pewaukee wi, mankato mn, eau claire wi, some smaller towns outside of milwaukee, the fox river valley.
forgot, a place where housing prices or land prices are with in the ability of a teacher to afford a nice place to live.
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Post by Coach Goodnight on May 10, 2007 21:21:13 GMT -6
coach seven I couldnt agree more, and with teh whole blue collar town and hard working kids, would be a dream!!
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Post by coachjaz on May 10, 2007 21:42:23 GMT -6
Airman - That sounds good to me!!
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Post by fbairattack on May 10, 2007 22:19:25 GMT -6
Small town in Montana...Say around 5000 people. Good hardworking kids that have talent, administration that is very supportive and wants to win, Superintendent that is former college FB player and is willing to do just about anything it takes to win, a new several million dollar facillity, a new FB field coming in next couple years, coaches that are very excited about the program and the kids, and several returning starters from last years team. I have been dreaming of that job for a LONG time... I guess dreams really do come true... yeeeehaaww
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Post by senatorblutarsky on May 11, 2007 0:57:38 GMT -6
Small town in Montana...Say around 5000 people. Good hardworking kids that have talent, administration that is very supportive and wants to win, Superintendent that is former college FB player and is willing to do just about anything it takes to win, a new several million dollar facillity, a new FB field coming in next couple years, coaches that are very excited about the program and the kids, and several returning starters from last years team. I have been dreaming of that job for a LONG time... I guess dreams really do come true... yeeeehaaww
I really like my current position... but this about sums it up. I would love to get back to Montana... it doesn't need to be a good job... I'd take 7 different preps in middle school, in Eastern Montana.... on the rez... and have to supplement my income by being part time dog catcher (would give me a change to be the first to hear when my dogs are out) to get back to Montana.
To make it ideal... throw in the (unmarried) secretary with the short skirt and DDs... who is attracted to the opposite of "tall, dark and handsome". who owns at least 1 section of land. And can cook. And encourages me to ride the Harley as much as I want.
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Post by mike13 on May 11, 2007 8:57:42 GMT -6
An orphanage!
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Post by tog on May 11, 2007 9:06:43 GMT -6
lol
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