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Post by bluecrazy on Oct 8, 2007 8:03:41 GMT -6
How many of you play all your kids? I'm dealing with parents right now. I always say that playing time is earned in practice. How do you play kids, that just can't do it? One kid that can't crack our starting line up is real up set. His mom called me, and said that he is trying to get a college scholarship. How can this happen if he can't even get into our lineup? Granted, I do play a lot of the kids both way's. We only have 18. bluecrazy
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Post by wingt74 on Oct 8, 2007 8:20:09 GMT -6
18 kids and you're having a hard time getting everyone on the field? What level is this?
Some of the best spots for players is at nosetackle taking on two lineman. Or in the backfield taking a fake. Remember, you can make an all-world faker out of almost anybody!
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Post by superpower on Oct 8, 2007 8:47:56 GMT -6
Or put him in at split end. Regardless of ability, the defense has to cover him; so now you can play 10 on 10. I forget which famous college coach (maybe Holtz) once said, "You can put a kid with no arms out there, and the defense will still cover him."
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Post by wildcat on Oct 8, 2007 8:57:30 GMT -6
I used to coach at a 2A school in northwest Illinois...always thought that it was HILARIOUS when parents thought that their kid was good enough to get a scholarship...like there isn't enough talented kids playing big-time 7A and 8A ball in the Chicago 'burbs.  In fact, I read somewhere that something like 95% of all of the college football scholarships awarded to Illinois kids go to kids who attended a high school within 50 miles of the city of Chicago... Heck, the all-time career rushing leader in the state of Illinois is playing D-III ball...if that kid couldn't get a scholarship, some kid who can't even crack the lineup on a small-school team probably should set his sights elswehere. |
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Post by knight9299 on Oct 8, 2007 9:51:35 GMT -6
How many of you play all your kids? I'm dealing with parents right now. I always say that playing time is earned in practice. How do you play kids, that just can't do it? One kid that can't crack our starting line up is real up set. His mom called me, and said that he is trying to get a college scholarship. How can this happen if he can't even get into our lineup? Granted, I do play a lot of the kids both way's. We only have 18. bluecrazy Last program I was with had this issue. We taped practice of players in question. Solved a lot of problems this way. |
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Post by bluecrazy on Oct 8, 2007 11:42:11 GMT -6
school size, 122 kids. Varsity level. This kid is a junior who has not played before, and has no clue. Really a freshman in playing ability.
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Post by fbdoc on Oct 8, 2007 16:26:58 GMT -6
Something we do at the start of the year is list (for our kids and our parents) the Height and Weight and position of the recruits for UF, FSU, and Miami. That usually takes the steam out of any parents arguement that their 5' 10 and 175 lb lineman son is the next D-I recruit from our school. We also have a pretty good list of our own grads who are now at D-III and NAIA schools. That helps as well when they remember those players were pretty darn good!
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Post by coachcalande on Oct 8, 2007 16:40:23 GMT -6
we play everyone if we are in teh mercy rule, otherwise, the starters deserve to play for all of the hard work they put in. typically there are a few kids that play both sides as well.
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 8, 2007 18:13:19 GMT -6
fbdoc...that is a GREAT idea.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2007 6:26:19 GMT -6
It's tough. In all honesty I think I've played a few too many kids this year--hasn't hurt us because I can control a call to protect it, but trying to reward a few guys for their hard work. I'm teaching a hard lesson this year, though--proving that coaches' kids don't get all the privileges. I have one and he's a backup and that's a good fit for him. Nice kid, works hard, just not a great football player. Doesn't see the field too much except on Specials. Tough on them, and I see it all in a different light now.
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Post by Coach Klemme on Oct 11, 2007 7:21:57 GMT -6
Do you have a JV program? Are the parents knowledgable in the sport of football adn what it takes to earn a scholarship at any level? We had a kid this season who thought he was better than our best DE. He said he was "unstoppable" at the JV level, but while going against our varsity he disappeared. He quit and we have moved on. If the parents think he can just start to play and earn a scholarship in 2 years that is laughable. Stick you your guns. I tell the my athletes (freshmen) that I can't play them unless they know what is going on. I won't put them in a situation where they can get hurt or if they mess up get someone else hurt because they don't know whats going on.
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Post by bluecrazy on Oct 11, 2007 8:11:25 GMT -6
No J.v. program. I can't break this kid from the habit of dropping his head both on taking on the block, and tackling. I'm afraid of a neck injury. Thanks for the comments. bluecrazy
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Post by briangilbert on Oct 11, 2007 10:15:52 GMT -6
We play everyone from 7th grade to JV football. And even with JV and Freshman football it's a couple of plays unless we are down or up alot.
I find it funny that just because football IS NOT a cut sport that everyone "expects a handout with playing time"
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Post by thunder17 on Oct 11, 2007 10:36:21 GMT -6
I didn't think D3 schools gave out scholarships? We are also small on numbers and play quite a few both ways. We have a few kids with decent ability that we use on kick return (not cover) and they may also spell someone for a series during the game. But when you have a kid that just flat out stinks and can't play then you need to wait until the end of game and hopefully you are up big and he gets a few reps. Varsity football, play to win.
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Post by ajreaper on Oct 11, 2007 10:54:50 GMT -6
I did not think DIII gave scholarships either- but it is true a kid can find a place to play if he's willing to go anywhere.
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 11, 2007 11:57:35 GMT -6
DIII does not give out athletic grant in aids. However, there are numerous leadership, academic, and other types of University based Scholarships at many private DIII schools that are available....and...playing football "might" give some candidates a leg up.
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Post by airman on Oct 11, 2007 12:15:17 GMT -6
I feel if a kid shows up every day to practice you have to find some where to play him. even if it is only for a play or two.
the days of kids just showing up for practice are done. they have other things then to practice 2 to 3 hrs and not see any game time.
maybe you put in jimmy, your 3 string tailback and then hand the ball off to the fullback for a play or two. no one is really going to notice it.
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Post by wingt74 on Oct 11, 2007 12:59:44 GMT -6
I feel if a kid shows up every day to practice you have to find some where to play him. even if it is only for a play or two. the days of kids just showing up for practice are done. they have other things then to practice 2 to 3 hrs and not see any game time. maybe you put in jimmy, your 3 string tailback and then hand the ball off to the fullback for a play or two. no one is really going to notice it. Those kids are easy. The problems are the big, pudgy, lazy kids, who are over the weight limit to be in the backfield. THey can't block, they can't tackle, and they don't try in practice. Yet they "show up" every day. Sorry, no PT for you. Why should they get in a game on the OLine and do nothing while the ball carrier gets killed...or do nothing on defense and give up a game winning TD so all the kids who bust their a$$ get to lose the game...because little Johnny had to get some playing time. Yes, a little bitter. Parents suck. These kids don't even want to be on the field. |
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Post by coachcalande on Oct 11, 2007 15:29:17 GMT -6
who would play a kid who sits out of every drill because he "doesnt feel good" or "cant find my ear pad" ...too many parents think football is a fat farm or baby sitting service.
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 11, 2007 17:16:24 GMT -6
WOW....FINALLY...coach jerk and I agree on something.
GREAT point coach jerk!. Those kids may try your patience...but at the little league/middle school level...a HUGE difference can be made if you do indeed show that patience! If they can't block and tackle now..and kind of get shoved to the side, when will they EVER be able to block and tackle.
It is easy to write them off..say they aren't interested, are lazy, etc. BUT remember, at that age, heck at any age really, most kids aren't interested in things they aren't any good at. Without that patience that coach jerk mentions, they will probably never get good enough to get interested.
Heck, anyone can coach Roger Starbauch.
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In fact, I read somewhere that something like 95% of all of the college football scholarships awarded to Illinois kids go to kids who attended a high school within 50 miles of the city of Chicago...
