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Post by 3rdandlong on Mar 30, 2017 21:39:48 GMT -6
I see all these videos and pictures of teams in the weigjtroom during the off-season and everyone is dressed exactly the same. I like this but it's very tough for us to do. One, it's hard to get kids to buy stuff and 2 we don't have a ton of money in our budget to throw shirts and shorts at our players. And it's also a pet peeve of mine when I see quitters wearing our gear on campus.
Those of you who do have your guys all dressed alike daily, how do you go about this?
*PS This is for those who care about their guys being dressed alike. I'm sure there are plenty of coaches who don't find it to be of great importance, but I know there are plenty who do.
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Post by bluboy on Mar 31, 2017 6:13:18 GMT -6
Our players are dressed alike in weight room. We bought shirts and give them to players to wear; we also collect them at end of winter/spring weight room. Players must wear some kind of football shorts. Our kid buy "pride packs" each season, so they all have something to wear.
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Post by bigmoot on Mar 31, 2017 6:37:00 GMT -6
Youve got to be organized. track who gets it, who turns it in. You have to have a coach with a checklist. cant say "everyone turn your shirts in...", some will keep.
I am finishing my 1st year at a new school. there are so many slap dicks walking around with "MY" stuff on it pisses me off. I am buying a new set of shirts and shorts for the guys that finish spring football and therefore will play in the fall. That stuff is mine and will be tracked. the rest i cant control. to me is a team pride factor, they will let any body wear their stuff...doesnt make sense. One of the things to change.
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Post by bluboy on Mar 31, 2017 8:51:39 GMT -6
We do keep track of the shirts. The last lifting day shirts get turned in, washed and dry. If we learn of a slap d1ck walking around with our stuff on, we give him one day to clean it and return it. If he does not, we turn in a charge slip for $25. If he does not return the shirt or pay for it; he suffers the same school consequence(does not get report card/transcript not sent out) as if he failed to return a textbook or football equipment. This , basically, takes care of stuff "growing legs".
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Post by 3rdandlong on Mar 31, 2017 9:55:15 GMT -6
We currently sell shirts and shorts to players but by law you can't force kids to buy them. Although the quitters always seem to be the first ones to buy them and since they already paid, we can't go and take them off the kid's back.
I do like the idea of buying them in bulk, giving them out and expecting them back. Although I would have to weigh out the pros and cons & decide how much I value us all looking the same in the weight room because it would be 1 more thing to monitor.
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Post by funkfriss on Mar 31, 2017 10:15:17 GMT -6
I'm not looking for an argument, I'm just curious. Why do you think wearing the same clothes makes your team better?
I did make a "rule" a few years back that kids couldn't wear clothes from another school. It blew my mind how many kids would do that. I was like, "Why the hell would you choose to wear their clothes and not ours?"
Maybe I'm too old...
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Post by Coach Vint on Apr 1, 2017 6:40:08 GMT -6
We give every player a t-shirt and shorts and a laundry clip with their locker #. We wash it everyday and put it back in their locker. One coach puts the laundry in. One coach flips it in the morning, and two coaches are responsible for putting it out before our athletic period. This takes all of 10 minutes. If they quit, we take their gear out of their locker. If they don't have their stuff because they took it home, we give them blue practice pants and an old practice jersey. Then we start practice with 5 updowns for everyone. We rotate the laundry so each coach has it once every 4 or 5 weeks.
We also did this when I was in the Bronx. They had to wear blue on blue everyday. We gave every kid a t-shirt and shorts. We bought them through the Sports Decal guy for like $12. It cost us $2000 which we used a fundraiser for. We collected it after Friday's workout and washed it. We gave it back to the kids Monday. Some of them washed on their own. If they did they had to have it at school for workouts.
I believe everything has a purpose. Having them dress alike was a way to get them out of their individuality and into the team. It was about them being we and us, not me and mine. We always gave our coaches 4-tshirts and 2 pairs of shorts. This helped our coaches to always have our stuff on. If the kids are going to wear our stuff, so our the coaches.
You can find inexpensive t-shirts, and you don't have to get them logo'd up. Just get a plain shirt to start. If you have a couple extra $, have them add your school name. Hell, we put the first letter of our school on ours.
If you don't think matching gear is important then don't do it. If you think it is important and will help your team win, then do it. There are many ways to do things, and what works at one place doesn't work at another. There is no right way or wrong way.
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Post by wingtol on Apr 1, 2017 7:14:51 GMT -6
I get the whole team gear stuff, but collecting and re-using the stuff after a year of off season workout seems gross to me.
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Post by mariner42 on Apr 1, 2017 10:53:27 GMT -6
We do keep track of the shirts. The last lifting day shirts get turned in, washed and dry. If we learn of a slap d1ck walking around with our stuff on, we give him one day to clean it and return it. If he does not, we turn in a charge slip for $25. If he does not return the shirt or pay for it; he suffers the same school consequence(does not get report card/transcript not sent out) as if he failed to return a textbook or football equipment. This , basically, takes care of stuff "growing legs". That doesn't seem petty to anyone else?
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Post by **** on Apr 1, 2017 11:10:48 GMT -6
We do keep track of the shirts. The last lifting day shirts get turned in, washed and dry. If we learn of a slap d1ck walking around with our stuff on, we give him one day to clean it and return it. If he does not, we turn in a charge slip for $25. If he does not return the shirt or pay for it; he suffers the same school consequence(does not get report card/transcript not sent out) as if he failed to return a textbook or football equipment. This , basically, takes care of stuff "growing legs". That doesn't seem petty to anyone else? No.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Apr 1, 2017 12:09:51 GMT -6
We do keep track of the shirts. The last lifting day shirts get turned in, washed and dry. If we learn of a slap d1ck walking around with our stuff on, we give him one day to clean it and return it. If he does not, we turn in a charge slip for $25. If he does not return the shirt or pay for it; he suffers the same school consequence(does not get report card/transcript not sent out) as if he failed to return a textbook or football equipment. This , basically, takes care of stuff "growing legs". That doesn't seem petty to anyone else? Not one bit. As a matter of fact, I charge extra for stuff because sometimes guys will steal it and not mind having to pay for it later because they figure it's just like buying it. If a $150 jersey doesn't get turned in, a $500 fix it.
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Post by mhs99 on Apr 2, 2017 21:50:24 GMT -6
I could really care less if kids dress the same in the weightroom....only care if they show up. They have plenty of gear but I am not chasing shirts and what if they come into the weight room without school issued gear? Are they sent to the gulag? Respect and am impressed by school that have people that launder shirts and the such and it must be nice to have 100 kids and dump kids for not wearing shirts to weight room. We got 35 kids cant lose any to dress codes, just work nothing else.
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Post by coachfloyd on Apr 3, 2017 5:20:01 GMT -6
I think if you can do it then great. But it's not going to make or break you. If you're a team that likes to put stuff on social media it sure does look a lot better if you post lifts.
Two years ago we had some trouble with the kids all wanting to go to this local trainer. He was against olifts and put them on bands running all over the place when they couldn't even track over their ankle on a squat. So I pulled together some clips to show our guys of colleges lifting and almost all did the olifts. My contacts at Alabama, Tulane, Uga, and LSU said they snatched as well. So I wanted them to see that if you are interested in playing in college it's in your best interest to learn these lifts and I'm the only guy in town certified to teach them. We also didn't have good buy in with our coaches either. They thought bench was most important. So I show the videos and at the end my hc asks the players what they saw. I thought finally he's going to get it. He said, "I saw all the guys wearing the same clothes". So he says that's what we are going to do and in typical fashion speaks before he thinks. He says if you don't have your practice clothes you won't lift. Well as the clothes washer I already know that some shirts were lost during the season. I also know some of our players are dirt poor and have no way to wash clothes every day. So he says we will wash them except we have players six periods a day so I will have to wash clothes every day at the end of the day. Takes two hours to completely wash and dry a team set. Of course I'm the only guy who knows that because I'm the only guy who consistently washes clothes. So day 1, 1st period three players don't have clothes. I send them to the hc. Every period the same thing happens. By day three he says forget about it . Ok rant over.
If you have players all at one time it can be easy to do with enough coaches. If you are in a situation like mine you are asking to fight a battle you can't win.
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Post by z on Apr 3, 2017 6:20:45 GMT -6
In my previous years as a head coach (23), we would ask the kids to wear black shorts and white t-shirts for lifting and anything team related. We would issue our kids their team wear once we started fall practice. I figured just about every kid had a pair of black shorts and white t-shirts.
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Post by pvogel on Apr 3, 2017 6:52:49 GMT -6
I like it. Think it looks sharp. Never been in a HS program with that luxury. My main question is how do you make sure its sanitary? Are they wearing the same stuff each day and throwing it in their locker after the workout? Only program ive been a part of that did this was a college. And each player had 2 sets of the clothes and laundry was done in industrial washers by students daily. Do you guys that do this have a similar set up?
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Post by blb on Apr 3, 2017 6:57:29 GMT -6
Every kid that came to our Summer Camp got a T-shirt.
Kids who had perfect Summer attendance got a Tee.
Kids who brought in $50 for Lift-a-Thon fundraiser got a Tee and shorts (changed colors and logos every year), $100 a hoodie too.
When we made the playoffs the Varsity kids got a tee (same with conference championships).
We also gave Tees for kids who achieved progressively higher levels in Bench and Squat (different colors for different weights lifted).
So our kids had plenty of opportunities to get gear without us having to wash or collect it.
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Post by Coach Vint on Apr 3, 2017 7:26:06 GMT -6
You don't have to get rid of kids that don't have their gear, and you don't keep them from lifting. The entire team does 5 up downs for every kid out of dress code at the start of the workout. That is a simple way to handle the accountability. Kids don't want their teammates to do updowns, so they are more apt to be in line with the dress code.
Do what works or you. If you can't find a way logistically, or you don't think it is important, then it isn't something you should do. We have the manpower and washers and dryers to make it work.
When I was in NYC there were two washers and dryers in the home ec area. We used them to do our laundry and it worked. It was a pain and took a little time. We felt it was worth the time.
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Apr 3, 2017 12:53:04 GMT -6
We do keep track of the shirts. The last lifting day shirts get turned in, washed and dry. If we learn of a slap d1ck walking around with our stuff on, we give him one day to clean it and return it. If he does not, we turn in a charge slip for $25. If he does not return the shirt or pay for it; he suffers the same school consequence(does not get report card/transcript not sent out) as if he failed to return a textbook or football equipment. This , basically, takes care of stuff "growing legs". That doesn't seem petty to anyone else? Nope
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Apr 3, 2017 12:56:43 GMT -6
I think if you can do it then great. But it's not going to make or break you. If you're a team that likes to put stuff on social media it sure does look a lot better if you post lifts. Two years ago we had some trouble with the kids all wanting to go to this local trainer. He was against olifts and put them on bands running all over the place when they couldn't even track over their ankle on a squat. So I pulled together some clips to show our guys of colleges lifting and almost all did the olifts. My contacts at Alabama, Tulane, Uga, and LSU said they snatched as well. So I wanted them to see that if you are interested in playing in college it's in your best interest to learn these lifts and I'm the only guy in town certified to teach them. We also didn't have good buy in with our coaches either. They thought bench was most important. So I show the videos and at the end my hc asks the players what they saw. I thought finally he's going to get it. He said, "I saw all the guys wearing the same clothes". So he says that's what we are going to do and in typical fashion speaks before he thinks. He says if you don't have your practice clothes you won't lift. Well as the clothes washer I already know that some shirts were lost during the season. I also know some of our players are dirt poor and have no way to wash clothes every day. So he says we will wash them except we have players six periods a day so I will have to wash clothes every day at the end of the day. Takes two hours to completely wash and dry a team set. Of course I'm the only guy who knows that because I'm the only guy who consistently washes clothes. So day 1, 1st period three players don't have clothes. I send them to the hc. Every period the same thing happens. By day three he says forget about it . Ok rant over. If you have players all at one time it can be easy to do with enough coaches. If you are in a situation like mine you are asking to fight a battle you can't win. That's why you don't let them take the short/shirts out of the lockeroom home with them .
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Post by coachfloyd on Apr 3, 2017 13:52:40 GMT -6
I think if you can do it then great. But it's not going to make or break you. If you're a team that likes to put stuff on social media it sure does look a lot better if you post lifts. Two years ago we had some trouble with the kids all wanting to go to this local trainer. He was against olifts and put them on bands running all over the place when they couldn't even track over their ankle on a squat. So I pulled together some clips to show our guys of colleges lifting and almost all did the olifts. My contacts at Alabama, Tulane, Uga, and LSU said they snatched as well. So I wanted them to see that if you are interested in playing in college it's in your best interest to learn these lifts and I'm the only guy in town certified to teach them. We also didn't have good buy in with our coaches either. They thought bench was most important. So I show the videos and at the end my hc asks the players what they saw. I thought finally he's going to get it. He said, "I saw all the guys wearing the same clothes". So he says that's what we are going to do and in typical fashion speaks before he thinks. He says if you don't have your practice clothes you won't lift. Well as the clothes washer I already know that some shirts were lost during the season. I also know some of our players are dirt poor and have no way to wash clothes every day. So he says we will wash them except we have players six periods a day so I will have to wash clothes every day at the end of the day. Takes two hours to completely wash and dry a team set. Of course I'm the only guy who knows that because I'm the only guy who consistently washes clothes. So day 1, 1st period three players don't have clothes. I send them to the hc. Every period the same thing happens. By day three he says forget about it . Ok rant over. If you have players all at one time it can be easy to do with enough coaches. If you are in a situation like mine you are asking to fight a battle you can't win. That's why you don't let them take the short/shirts out of the lockeroom home with them . They got lost between the wash and the dryer. They are wherever all those socks I've lost are.
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Post by mkuempel on Apr 3, 2017 14:27:43 GMT -6
We "reward" those who wear school gear and "punish" those who wear other school's gear through a point system. You get a point if you wear our gear and lose two points if you wear another school's gear. The points go towards earning the next year's gear as well as helmet stickers.
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Post by coachg13 on Apr 3, 2017 15:26:46 GMT -6
We buy them and let them keep them every couple years. It's really not all that expensive... If you get it timed right with Badger/Riddell/Russell/Allison they all make a good workout shirt and shorts and at some point each year a deal that you can get for about $15-20 bucks total for top and bottom. We give ours everything they need, but none of it goes home with them. We wash and dry at school.
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 3, 2017 19:21:10 GMT -6
We give every player a t-shirt and shorts and a laundry clip with their locker #. We did this too at the high school I was at. It helps that we had a commercial Speed Queen triple loader washer and dryer. It would wash whatever you could get crammed into it.
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Post by rosey65 on Apr 4, 2017 5:39:45 GMT -6
Kids MUST be in school/team shirts at practice. The kids get workout clothes in their spirit pack every year, so the returners have plenty of clothing to wear. We sell leftover tshirts (pink night, blackout, homecoming, etc) from each fall to the kids in the spring, usually $5 each.
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Post by rsmith627 on Apr 4, 2017 6:01:48 GMT -6
We just ask that they wear school colors or something with our name on it while they practice / work out.
Most wear the compression shirts that they get in their spirit pack anyway. A few linemen who aren't as comfortable parading around in compression just wear a t-shirt. It works.
Besides, the hashtag that you're tweeting with is way more important than the apparel anyway.
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Post by rosey65 on Apr 4, 2017 6:50:41 GMT -6
We just ask that they wear school colors or something with our name on it while they practice / work out. Most wear the compression shirts that they get in their spirit pack anyway. A few linemen who aren't as comfortable parading around in compression just wear a t-shirt. It works. Besides, the hashtag that you're tweeting with is way more important than the apparel anyway. #slowfeetdonteat #gainz #grindallday
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Post by mrjvi on Apr 4, 2017 7:11:35 GMT -6
I must be on a different planet. I have shirts they can earn for getting enough workouts in the summer or scoring high on our pre-season test (taken out of the coaches camp pay) but that's it. I don't have any kids wearing other school stuff. I wish I had the time, budget, etc. to even consider the stuff everyone is talking about. I get $4300 gross during the season, enough budget to get the basics we need and nothing else. I'm not washing all their stuff and the school doesn't. I only have 1 assistant varsity coach so we can't do everything. We will still do well so I'm not complaining at all. Just amazed, I guess.
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Post by cwaltsmith on Apr 4, 2017 7:32:39 GMT -6
We start every offseason with a white tshirt and solid shorts inn what ever color you decide. Players can get both for less than 10 dollars at Walmart. We have bought them before when funds were available. The team gear is earned through attendance and gains in wieght room. When new stuff is earned player can wear it or the white shirt.
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Post by mariner42 on Apr 4, 2017 18:50:21 GMT -6
So am I understanding that pretty much everyone in here does team laundry? That's not really a thing in this part of CA.
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Post by fantom on Apr 4, 2017 19:06:03 GMT -6
So am I understanding that pretty much everyone in here does team laundry? That's not really a thing in this part of CA. Depends on what you mean by "here". It seems like a lot of the people who answered this thread do. I didn't answer because we don't care if everybody dresses alike in the weight room and we don't launder anything other than game unis. The OP specifically asked for how people who do dress uniformly do it. That's their business.
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