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Post by mountainman on Mar 27, 2017 14:31:02 GMT -6
I'm sure this has been covered many times before, but which states have their own division/playoffs for private schools and separate ones for public. We are redistricting in our state and we do not do this at this time. We have about 798 students (last count). Currently we are a 3A school. Last go round they took all of the schools under 1000 and said they were 1A, 2A or 3A. They took the bottom third of public, the bottom third of private, and the bottom third of charter and put them into 1A. Then middle third of private, middle third of public, and middle third of charter into 2A, etc.
This year the proposal is to create 3 divisions again. All of the private/charter into 2A regardless of size, 1/2 of the public into 1A, 1/2 of the public into 3A. I was asked by our AD how many states separated their private/charter and public, and am trying to find out.
Any feedback is appreciated.
Thanks!
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Post by bignose on Mar 27, 2017 14:47:36 GMT -6
Maryland has separate leagues for the Public and Private schools.
They will occasionally play one another, but the Privates compete for their own League Championships, not the State Championship.
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Post by fantom on Mar 27, 2017 16:12:02 GMT -6
Virginia is mostly separate. Until last year we were completely separate but Liberty Christian Academy threatened to sue to get into the VHSL and the league caved and let them in. They did have to agree to an enrollment district and to stop reclassifying students. So, there's one private school in the VHSL and I don't believe that the others are in a hurry to get in.
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Post by famar on Mar 27, 2017 17:10:02 GMT -6
In New Jersey, public and private schools are separated for playoff purposes. During the regular season private schools and public schools compete against each other, but because of the gulf between privates and publics those meetings are becoming rarer. The exception is in North Jersey where the five dominant private schools (Paramus Catholic, St. Joseph of Montvale, Don Bosco Prep, St. Peter's Prep, and Bergen Catholic) are in there own division and their non-league games are against out of state competition or against the mid-size private schools in North Jersey.
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Post by wingtol on Mar 27, 2017 17:40:22 GMT -6
PA we are all together.
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Post by jcamerot on Mar 27, 2017 17:55:35 GMT -6
Public and private all in conferences and playoffs together--playoff classifications by enrollment only (no multiplier for privates)--
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Post by jcamerot on Mar 27, 2017 17:56:23 GMT -6
Sorry--previous info from Wisconsin
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Post by somecoach on Mar 27, 2017 18:08:27 GMT -6
New York has two different leagues.
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Post by carookie on Mar 28, 2017 8:38:18 GMT -6
I'm in Southern California, up until two years ago private mostly played in its own divisions. For example I was at a small private school in a league with other small private schools; in the playoffs our division was primarily private school leagues, with 2 other small public school leagues.
Now, however, none of that matters anymore. Things change year to year based on each school individually. Basically they punish success. There is one league where the top team goes to the D1 playoffs (very successful nationally ranked), the next best team will be in D5, and then a smattering of D8-D13; and it resets every year based on the last two years.
So basically private or public make no difference, nor does the league you play in; if you have a good team you move up to a tougher division come playoffs. Essentially punishing small schools who have a good class come through and rewarding big schools that don't compete; they had good intentions but messed up in putting it together right.
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 28, 2017 9:38:44 GMT -6
SC is mostly split. There are 5 public classifications and very few privates compete with the publics, and those that are, they are in the smallest classifications except 1 is AAA. There are several charter schools across the state and they compete with the publics as well. All schools (public/private/charter) compete in the classification, based on the 135 ADM that is figured every odd year, decided by enrollment. Its roughly 1/5 of the total. This applies for all sports. Football sets the classifications, but all sports follow the break down. If a school doesn't have football, that region is just short a team (or 2). There are a couple of regions that only have 4 football teams in them and the top 4 teams from each region make the playoffs  This is in the lower classifications. There is no multiplier, classification bump, etc.... for the privates/charter. Everyone falls where they are in the ranking from largest to smallest. and just in case you're wondering, there is no way in Hades SC should have 5 classification; we just don't have enough schools. |
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Post by macdiiddy on Mar 29, 2017 6:25:06 GMT -6
Indiana they are all together. 6 Classifications.
I know Illinois has a separate Private/Public where they are all in different classes and different tournament. There are like 8 classifications.
To relieve some of the tension Indiana has also added a "Success Factor". So there are arbitrary points given if you win a sectional, regional, semi-state, state championship game. If you accumulate 10 points in 2 years you bump up a classification. This helped solve some of the perennial powerhouses playing beneath their competition in the playoffs and winning every year.
This success factor isn't just for private schools and have seen a few public schools bump up as a result. Only one team so far (Rule is about 6 or 8 years old) has transcended 2 classifications and that is the best private school in the state.
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Post by wingtol on Mar 29, 2017 9:18:03 GMT -6
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Post by wolverine55 on Mar 29, 2017 9:48:33 GMT -6
Indiana they are all together. 6 Classifications. I know Illinois has a separate Private/Public where they are all in different classes and different tournament. There are like 8 classifications. To relieve some of the tension Indiana has also added a "Success Factor". So there are arbitrary points given if you win a sectional, regional, semi-state, state championship game. If you accumulate 10 points in 2 years you bump up a classification. This helped solve some of the perennial powerhouses playing beneath their competition in the playoffs and winning every year. This success factor isn't just for private schools and have seen a few public schools bump up as a result. Only one team so far (Rule is about 6 or 8 years old) has transcended 2 classifications and that is the best private school in the state. Illinois does have a multiplier for private schools, but they are not separated for playoffs. |
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Post by Coach Vint on Mar 29, 2017 17:58:40 GMT -6
In Texas public schools and private schools have separate governing bodies, separate districts, and separate playoffs.
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Post by fred on Mar 30, 2017 7:08:03 GMT -6
MO is all together but privates have a multiplier
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Post by coachddwebb on Mar 30, 2017 10:54:44 GMT -6
In Az public, private and charter schools are all mostly in the AIA, but there is the CAA which is a league with smaller Charter schools in it.
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Post by coachood on Apr 7, 2017 7:30:03 GMT -6
"they had good intentions but messed up in putting it together right."
California in a nutshell.😁
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Post by coacht65 on Apr 7, 2017 10:36:54 GMT -6
Georgia has them all lumped together, but private schools are forced into the next highest size classification (so are with any public schools that allow students from outside their district). The smallest division, 1A, has a separate private and public championship, but it is all one governing body.
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Post by jtimmerman53 on Apr 7, 2017 11:11:54 GMT -6
Here in GA we have traditionally had GISA for private schools and GHSA for public schools but in recent years there has been an influx of private schools moving over to the GHSA. However private schools in the lowest classification in GHSA have a separate playoff bracket.
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Post by coachthomason on Apr 7, 2017 14:02:16 GMT -6
In Oregon everyone is all mixed together (public/private). Classifications are based on school populations (with a few exceptions). As far as I know there is no multiplier for private schools.
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This is in the lower classifications. 
