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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 19:25:35 GMT -6
Im looking to relocate to one of theses states in 2 years and im trying to make some contacts. I figure as large as this site is, we cant all be just from California, Florida And Texas right?
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Post by freezeoption on Mar 11, 2017 21:17:40 GMT -6
I don't coach in Idaho anymore, but I still have a friend who is out there.
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Post by southidcoach on Mar 12, 2017 22:02:30 GMT -6
What brings you out this way?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 22:55:57 GMT -6
What brings you out this way? Well I'm not there yet, but I'm looking to live outside big cities in california. It's not really what I'm comfortable with. I grew up in a small town of less that 500 people. I've looked at a few high schools that are interesting. The life style there is slower.
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Post by 8manspartan on Mar 13, 2017 7:23:06 GMT -6
In terms of salary, Wyoming is the place to be. Great pay and retirement. The negative is you have to live in Wyoming. Idaho is easier on the eyes but the salary will leave you wanting more--as in more $. With that said, you're out of the rat race in both areas.
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Post by southidcoach on Mar 13, 2017 10:38:46 GMT -6
In terms of salary, Wyoming is the place to be. Great pay and retirement. The negative is you have to live in Wyoming. Idaho is easier on the eyes but the salary will leave you wanting more--as in more $. With that said, you're out of the rat race in both areas. I agree, the salary difference between Idaho and Wyoming is significant but I'm not sure how the cost of living shakes out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 14:34:55 GMT -6
Cost isn't something in worried about. I make over 1200+ a month from the VA. My spouse makes good money as an accountant.
What do you mean out of the rat race?
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Post by joe83843 on Mar 13, 2017 15:34:12 GMT -6
I grew up there and got my start as a low-level gopher for the Univ. of Idaho Football Team. Done all my coaching in Washington and Georgia though.
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Post by freezeoption on Mar 13, 2017 16:44:48 GMT -6
out of the rat race means not all the crap of cities, I got my start out in Idaho, loved it but moved back to the midwest
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 17:30:38 GMT -6
ohh i thought you were infering it would be hard to get a job coaching out there. I guess i read too much into it.
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Post by freezeoption on Mar 13, 2017 18:01:52 GMT -6
I don't know job wise if it will be easy to get one. I haven't been out there since the 90s. The pay may be small compared to Wyoming, but that's because not many want to go out there. Idaho's pay was pretty good, the insurance was pretty good, heck of a lot better than where I am at. What I liked about Idaho is that you drive a couple of hours and your in a total different environment through out the state.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 23:47:59 GMT -6
I don't know job wise if it will be easy to get one. I haven't been out there since the 90s. The pay may be small compared to Wyoming, but that's because not many want to go out there. Idaho's pay was pretty good, the insurance was pretty good, heck of a lot better than where I am at. What I liked about Idaho is that you drive a couple of hours and your in a total different environment through out the state. That does sound enticing. Looking though their big cities like Boise nampa and meridian. A lot of their teams are under performing. Nampa high had 1 win last year. I think I'd like to be in their 'big cities'
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Post by freezeoption on Mar 14, 2017 4:56:43 GMT -6
boise is the big city in Idaho and it is only 300,000 or so, it was 250,000 when I was there, I don't know about under performing, my guess is other sports drawing in athletes, but that is a guess, season use to be short, 8 games, but again that was a long time ago when I was a pup
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 8:33:52 GMT -6
boise is the big city in Idaho and it is only 300,000 or so, it was 250,000 when I was there, I don't know about under performing, my guess is other sports drawing in athletes, but that is a guess, season use to be short, 8 games, but again that was a long time ago when I was a pup freezeoption You make it round like you're and old dog with hip problems lol Where are you 1st now?
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Post by coachcb on Mar 14, 2017 8:42:46 GMT -6
In terms of salary, Wyoming is the place to be. Great pay and retirement. The negative is you have to live in Wyoming. Idaho is easier on the eyes but the salary will leave you wanting more--as in more $. With that said, you're out of the rat race in both areas. I agree, the salary difference between Idaho and Wyoming is significant but I'm not sure how the cost of living shakes out. I'm one state away from Idaho and Wyoming and have friends that teach in both places. The pay is great for teachers in Wyoming and the cost of living is low. However, the small towns are very isolated and finding housing can be difficult. You may end up commuting quite a ways for work. Also, Wyoming demands results from teachers which isn't a bad thing. But, they base a lot of their evaluation process on the juniors' ACT scores. They require all juniors to take the ACTs and have canned teachers whose classes don't do well on those tests. Idaho is kind of a sh-t show in education. The pay isn't great and the cost of living can be prohibitively high in many areas. I looked into teaching and coaching in Boise but I was going to struggle to make ends meet, even with experience and a Masters. I also don't care for their evaluation process. You're evaluated by the administration, those scores are sent to the state, a record is kept and that's basically how they rehire/fire you. They're not unionized and there's no tenure and that makes me spooky when it comes to teaching there. I have a friend who is busting hump in a difficult school right now but is getting sub-par evaluations. She is a good teacher (I worked with her a few years ago) but she is in bad school with a bad administration. She's been there awhile (four years) but is going to be leaving and moving back here because she is tired of the evaluation process.
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Post by southidcoach on Mar 14, 2017 9:33:24 GMT -6
I don't know job wise if it will be easy to get one. I haven't been out there since the 90s. The pay may be small compared to Wyoming, but that's because not many want to go out there. Idaho's pay was pretty good, the insurance was pretty good, heck of a lot better than where I am at. What I liked about Idaho is that you drive a couple of hours and your in a total different environment through out the state. That does sound enticing. Looking though their big cities like Boise nampa and meridian. A lot of their teams are under performing. Nampa high had 1 win last year. I think I'd like to be in their 'big cities' I'm not sure about Nampa under-performing. The parity out here is not great from an athlete standpoint and they have two other high schools in their district pulling kids.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 11:09:35 GMT -6
I was speaking only as an observer looking at the records over the last few years.
What's a full year in Idaho like? Is their spring ball and passing league? Or is it more August 1st is the first time you see the kids?
What are some of the main differences from california?
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Post by 8manspartan on Mar 14, 2017 15:50:59 GMT -6
There's no padded spring ball. You have a week of "spring ball" in t-shirt and shorts. In the larger areas, there are passing leagues and tournaments, but not to the extent of California. The better programs are ran just like anywhere else: off-season and summer workouts, camps, etc. In the Boise area and other larger towns (Pocatello, Twin Falls, Idaho Falls) you're starting to see more specialization and fewer multi-sport athletes (just like the rest of the country). In the rural areas you still have your 3 sport athletes, which having coached at both big and small schools, I like having almost all of your athletes multi-sport kids (IDK, maybe I'm just getting old).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 16:18:27 GMT -6
There's no padded spring ball. You have a week of "spring ball" in t-shirt and shorts. In the larger areas, there are passing leagues and tournaments, but not to the extent of California. The better programs are ran just like anywhere else: off-season and summer workouts, camps, etc. In the Boise area and other larger towns (Pocatello, Twin Falls, Idaho Falls) you're starting to see more specialization and fewer multi-sport athletes (just like the rest of the country). In the rural areas you still have your 3 sport athletes, which having coached at both big and small schools, I like having almost all of your athletes multi-sport kids (IDK, maybe I'm just getting old). I'm the same way with multisport kids. I feel it's better. Keeps them in shape and loose so to speak. Is there any particular program that you would recomend that I reach out to? You could Personal message it If you don't feel comfortable doing it pubically. I'm very interested in coaching in either state.
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Post by Chris Clement on Mar 14, 2017 21:01:22 GMT -6
Hold on.
The cost of living in IDAHO is prohibitively high??
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Post by southidcoach on Mar 15, 2017 9:05:44 GMT -6
Hold on. The cost of living in IDAHO is prohibitively high?? Only when compared to the wages for teaching and only in certain areas.
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Post by freezeoption on Mar 15, 2017 17:42:46 GMT -6
I graduated in 91, got my first job out of college in Idaho. I was there for four years, taught at two schools. If your at a town that is considered a resort town, then of course, things will cost more. I had full coverage in insurance, eye, dental, health. Also, your sick days use to travel with you from school to school. I lived 2 years up in the mountains and then two years down in the desert.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 16, 2017 8:36:04 GMT -6
Hold on. The cost of living in IDAHO is prohibitively high?? It really depends on where you're at. Teacher salaries bounce all over the place in Idaho. The base pay is generally pretty low but there's big jumps on the salary schedule as you pick up more education and years. It's just hit or miss. I looked into the Boise area as I have friends there but I would struggle to make ends meet, even with a high level of education and experience.
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Post by dozer60 on Mar 16, 2017 9:12:34 GMT -6
Teach and coach in rural Idaho, 40 minutes from Boise. Love it. Education is a burning topic in Idaho right now though. I will agree with most of what's been said about crappy salaries etc. In terms of coaching, you'll find most schools have mostly 2 way players, 3 sport kids that are doing baseball as much as football during the summer. There are some great programs being run in and through Boise right now. I love my job at the 3A level where I'm at though. This is the essence of small town football, where the community and tradition runs through football. I'm a new teacher (3rd year in the profession) and 5th year coach. Love it out here.
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Post by freezeoption on Mar 16, 2017 10:48:19 GMT -6
where you at dozer
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 16:04:37 GMT -6
Yeah if at possible in the next year or two that scene you just paineted is ideal for me.
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