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Post by Coach Goodnight on Nov 21, 2007 22:49:05 GMT -6
I was reading the other day from AFCA football coaching strategies and read the portion from Eddie Robinson. He stated that he ran the DW at Grambling, does anyone have any film of his running the DW there or know where I can get some? Thanks in advance!
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Post by burtledog on Nov 21, 2007 23:31:37 GMT -6
He was probably referring to blue or red WingT formations as he was definitely a WingT guru.
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Nov 22, 2007 0:35:27 GMT -6
hw specifically said DW and single as well
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Post by jcarbon2 on Nov 22, 2007 6:30:54 GMT -6
Coach,
I am with Burtledog on this one. He was a very well known wing-t coach. Double wing is not specifically refer to the Markham, Wyatt, Murphy, Calande smachmouth type DW. The flexbone with huge splits is a double wing. So double wing is not an offense but rather a formation.
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Post by coachdawhip on Nov 22, 2007 8:28:04 GMT -6
Grambling ran a version of the wing-t with coach robinson
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 22, 2007 9:12:00 GMT -6
Coach Goodnight, I am with the other guys here. He was most likely referring to the standard wing-T formation, with the half back aligned as a wing and not the foot to foot compressed formation that people refer to as the dbl wing now.
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Nov 22, 2007 9:24:08 GMT -6
that may v ery well be but I was going by what he said in the book. Maybe I will be lucky and he did actually. I would almost be but could be wrong that in the origins of the DW they werent always foot to foot!
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Post by jcarbon2 on Nov 22, 2007 9:50:42 GMT -6
Coach Goodnight,
Just google "grambling wing-t".
As far as where the double tight, foot-to-foot, double wing you need look no further than Don Markham.
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Nov 22, 2007 10:56:26 GMT -6
Kinda thought that was true. I am sure that some of the earlier "double wings" had some wider splits but were more of wing-t type stuff. Carbon, thanks for the info.
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Post by airraider on Nov 22, 2007 11:31:31 GMT -6
Kinda thought that was true. I am sure that some of the earlier "double wings" had some wider splits but were more of wing-t type stuff. Carbon, thanks for the info. I coached a guy in semi-pro who played FB for Coach Robinson.. we ran some Wing-T and he knew the plays because it was the same stuff.. we used Delaware terminology.. Not sure if they did or not.. but he picked up on it all really quickly.
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Post by tedseay on Nov 22, 2007 11:43:27 GMT -6
hw specifically said DW and single as well Coach: If Coach Robinson specifically mentioned single and double wing, that probably means he was coaching direct snap ("shotgun") systems in the 1940's just as Pop Warner (the coach, not the organization) invented them starting in 1906 -- before he (Coach Robinson) switched to Wing-T. A lot of single wing coaches went Wing-T in the 50's... Update: I just checked my copy, and you're right -- Eddie Robinson was talking with Lynn "Pappy" Waldorf about the importance of developing a system, and Coach Robinson definitely said he was coaching single and double wing. That means direct snap, Pop Warner-invented systems before he started coaching Wing-T. Good catch...
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Nov 22, 2007 12:01:26 GMT -6
i wonder if there are any videos of them running this stuff. Would love to see the difference from today and from then.
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Post by bopper235 on Nov 22, 2007 18:00:42 GMT -6
Coach Goodnight,
There are some videos available just go to howtosports.com. I'm a swac guy and I remember taking recruiting visits there during in high school. He ran the wing t with all the basic stuff like the fullback belly, the fullback trap, the counter with either the wingback or halfback etc.
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Post by coachdawhip on Nov 23, 2007 8:01:30 GMT -6
I know because I have family that played at Grambling, Coach Robinson regularly had conversations and visits in Delaware.
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