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Post by airman on Jan 31, 2007 20:54:56 GMT -6
how many of you uses psychology in your coaching.
Positive self talk is one are which I have really started to work with kids on.
I have a sign on my door, failure is a event, not a person.
i hear kids use such bad self talk when they make a mistake and other kids will get down on them.
how many of you actually coach this area. I want kids to look at the positive. when a qb throws a int, I do not want to yell at him I want to ask him what he learned get him to think.
just curious as to what you guys use in the area of psychology.
so much of the game is really mental.
look at the colts vs the patriots. clearly the colts got a checkup from the neckup at half time and put their demons behind them.
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Post by knightscoach on Jan 31, 2007 22:50:05 GMT -6
I graduated in psychology and I use it a lot. Airman you mentioned yelling. Some kids really respond to that, some do not. By nature I do not like to yell a lot. I usually take the approach that you take. I try to have a good understanding of how each kid responds to different approaches, especially with quarterbacks. I think that everyone uses psychology whether they know it or not. I am always trying to find new ways to motivate and teach kids of today. If you do not know who you are coaching how can you be a good coach? That is my opinion.
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Post by brophy on Feb 1, 2007 8:22:10 GMT -6
[glow=red,2,300]Encourage[/glow] (it is our job to create their confidence),[glow=red,2,300] Equip [/glow](teach), [glow=red,2,300]Experience [/glow](visualizations & walk thrus, relevant game situation training), [glow=red,2,300]Expect [/glow](hold them accountable)
To each his own, but I have VERY LITTLE respect for fans with whistles on the field yelling at players and cussing them out as a way of repeated communication.
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Post by superpower on Feb 1, 2007 8:31:08 GMT -6
[glow=red,2,300]Encourage[/glow] (it is our job to create their confidence),[glow=red,2,300] Equip [/glow](teach), [glow=red,2,300]Experience [/glow](visualizations & walk thrus, relevant game situation training), [glow=red,2,300]Expect [/glow](hold them accountable) To each his own, but I have VERY LITTLE respect for fans with whistles on the field yelling at players and cussing them out as a way of repeated communication. Awesome post, Brophy. Too often we forget that as coaches we are first and foremost EDUCATORS. |
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Post by ccscoach on Feb 1, 2007 8:36:25 GMT -6
I think that the biggest thing to remember is each kid is different from what I have seen is some kids will respond to a yeller and some one just as some kids will respond to the nice guy just like some won't.....Its finding out what they respond to that makes difference.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2007 8:55:12 GMT -6
I think there's psychology in everything we do. Some weeks you play an amazing team and you tell your guys, "these guys are very beatable." The next week you play a poor team and say, "these guys can beat you."
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Post by coachf on Feb 1, 2007 9:22:10 GMT -6
Coaches have to carry a lot of labels. Psychology is just one of the many. What does railing on a kid help improve? If I scream at a kid for throwing a pick, that doesn't help him. Talking through his progression, what he saw, what I want, what he needs to do is more of an aid. I don't know if it is so much psychology, or just using common sense.
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Post by chorizo on Feb 1, 2007 9:33:36 GMT -6
Self talk,in my opinion is as important as muscle memory and almost as actual practice.
What you play over in your head has a high percentage of coming true. When your a kid
and an adult, teacher, coach, parent figure rips you, it can sting for a long time,
usually to the detriment of the team, class, family. Confidence suffers, they start to over think,
they play it safer than they should. Next thing you know they're average, your average.
This is especially true to fine motor skills.
I have seen otherwise very good athletes become mediocre with the words of a coach.
I'm not talking kinder and gentler, gooey " everybody tell Joey nice kick" bunk. The kid knows when the kick failed.
Picture the the best outcome, your best play, the perfect block, the feeling of your best game. The glass is full.
I have never been to a positive coaching clinic, I'm a Conservative, general contractor, father. I coach because I love it. I get better every time I check this site. I'm telling you this so you wont think I'm a new age wet behind the ears educator type.
Brophy you bring out excellent points. The four E's. Thats our job.
We have a huge responsibility. These kids will take somethings
with them. What's it gonna be?
I for one wont be a jerk until I win a National Championship.
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Post by jhanawa on Feb 1, 2007 9:40:15 GMT -6
To each his own, but I have VERY LITTLE respect for fans with whistles on the field yelling at players and cussing them out as a way of repeated communication.LMAO.....Unfortunately, that description fits some guys. Psychology? We don't call it that, we call it coaching. IMO, psychology is a shrink and a patient on a coach, coaches are a hell of a lot more efficient than that.....LOL 
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Post by knighter on Feb 1, 2007 10:28:19 GMT -6
and we can't bill the hours like a psycopathogist LOL, wish we could, I'd be retired by now from teaching.
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Post by mnpasso on Feb 1, 2007 10:42:14 GMT -6
Great topic Airman!
I try to use psychology as much as I can fit it in to my teaching/coaching. First, think of the cliche' "sports is 90% mental" and how disproportionate teaching the physical and mental is. I am not advocating only 10% of your time on fundamentals, just illustrating a point. I believe the words we use is significant.
I often use an analogy to illustrate my points. So... You are standing on a golf tee box and there is a lake all down the left side of the fairway. Most people say to themselves, "Don't go in the lake." The human mind at some level doesn't comprehend the word "don't," (not my research) Rather, you should tell yourself, "Stay right." Simply and positively stated. Staying right is the image in your mind, not the lake.
My football example would be that I always talk about "good decisions with the football" and never about "interceptions" to our QB's.
I read a lot about the mental game of golf and then relate that back to our players. The best piece I have recently read talked about the concept that "you are what you think." Players have heard for years about nutrition and you are what you eat, etc. This piggybacks what others in this thread have mentioned about genuine positive self talk (not the warm fuzzy crap) and that you truly are what you think of yourself. Along those lines, your brain CANNOT differentiate between sincere talk and the sarcasm people use about themselves. A kid drops a ball and says, "I suck." Your brain doesn't know sarcasm, and takes that statement at face value, "I suck."
Lastly, I know I have coached several athletes who always think they are getting yelled at. I confess to coaching loud at practice, but contest that I am not yelling. I have tried to explain that the message is the key, not the volume, but some individuals can't get past that.
Again, great post Airman as I got a little fired up today. But that's okay as it's going down to about -20 in MN this weekend!
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Post by coacher on Feb 1, 2007 11:02:29 GMT -6
Psychology is a big part of the game. I scream, I yell, I tear down, and I encourage. There is a time and place for everything. If tearing down is towards and individual, I make sure I pick him back up before he leaves. If I tear the team down before they leave, well then, sometimes it's good to let sink in over night. My philosophy is: Do not treat all individuals the same, but treat them fairly. Learn who each individual is, and you will find the right buttons you need to push.
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Post by CVBears on Feb 1, 2007 15:49:46 GMT -6
I also think that it is important for kids to know where they stand and continue to improve. While trying to improve, I am going to get after them. They are going to know if they messed it up. If they mess up their stance in the summer, they are going to get a different response then they are during week 9 of the season. In either case, I make a mental check list to make sure to "catch" the same kid doing the skill correctly that I got after them about before. I always praise for improvement when things are done correctly. Even the "simple" things that we take for granted during the season. A kid has to get praise for something. If every day all he does is get yelled at, he isn't going to learn, produce, improve or hang out for too long.
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Post by kboyd on Feb 1, 2007 22:04:27 GMT -6
Psychology is a huge part of coaching and you have to know how to read each of the kids to get the best out of them. The best advice that I received was from my HS coach who told me when I started coaching with him: "Praise in groups and criticize alone". This has been great advise not only for me as a coach, but also for my professional and personal life.
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