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Post by coachbw on Nov 28, 2007 12:24:26 GMT -6
I know from older posts on here, that there are a number of teams that platoon but still have their kids learn enough of the other side of the ball to serve as a backup. My question is, how would you break down the practice schedule for the "secondary" side of the ball. Do you organize your "secondary" as a shorter version of your "primary" practice? (maybe, 5 minutes of individual, 5 minutes of inside, 5 minutes of skelly, 5 minutes of team = 20 minutes of secondary). Do you throw out the group stuff and just do indy and team? Also, how much time do you devote to your "secondary" side?
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Post by coachcb on Nov 28, 2007 12:28:59 GMT -6
I've never seen a team differentiate between primary and secondary. They practice both sides of the ball during the space of the practice. Everyone learns the same skills; they just play on opposite sides of the ball.
Now, during "team periods" I have seen some platoon units that seperate completely; offensive kids vs defensive kids. But that's about it.
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Post by pantherpride91 on Nov 28, 2007 12:36:35 GMT -6
While I was in school we were a completely separate platoon team
We came together for stretching and special teams (excluding PR that was all defense) and then the offense went on their own and the defense went their way.
It worked out very well for us. We had about 85-90 kids on the team
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Post by brophy on Nov 28, 2007 12:47:21 GMT -6
we did it as;
Beginning of practice;
Rotating 20/20 Indy work (Varsity through Sophomores, but this could work WITH freshmen)
OL coach
WR coach
RB coach
QB coach
DL coach
LB coach
DB coach
then break it up into individual Fresh/Vars/Soph groups for group work. For Soph/Fresh, the REST of practice would be divided between offense & defense (or done on a split-day)
Then in group time, the coaches split up (the indy coaches were comprised of Vars / Soph staff)
Group is run by 2 coaches (2 different group sessions)
Team is run by the coordinator
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Post by coachorr on Nov 28, 2007 15:14:37 GMT -6
I have a question that has been bothering me for some time and I would like some help.Can a line coach be a coordinator? If so, how do you take care of the Skelly session? Skelly in a platoon system is usually a time for oline and dline to work on their stuff.
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Post by airman on Nov 28, 2007 15:34:32 GMT -6
I have a question that has been bothering me for some time and I would like some help.Can a line coach be a coordinator? If so, how do you take care of the Skelly session? Skelly in a platoon system is usually a time for oline and dline to work on their stuff. I got this from herman edwards of the k.c. chiefs. during speical teams period the oline and dline have skill session and one on one pass drills. the only works on pass drops and dline works on pass rushes vs each other. I have taken this and adapted it. we practice special teams for 45 minutes per night. during this time the oline and dline work there indy drills during this period. the also work their indy skills duirng this period. so when special teams period is over, we can go right to offense. the defensive line gets to work on one on one pass rush drills vs the online for 15 minutes each day. it does wonders for your pass protection. if you are a run tema the online could work run skills during this period. we also runs our speical teams period sort of different. we run punt vs punt return and kickoff vs kickoff return at the same time. we diivde the team up and divide the coaches up so on field one we have punt for 20 minutes, then 5 min break, then punt return for 20 minutes. on field 2 kick off and kick off return are doing the same thing at the same time. in the endzone the online and dline are working. this period is also were our center adn qb get 50 snaps perday on the exchange. |
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Post by coachorr on Nov 28, 2007 16:00:52 GMT -6
Thank you, this is a good idea. It has been troubling me for some time.
So what happens during a skelly period?
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 1, 2007 18:14:01 GMT -6
coach orr, a line coach can certainly be a coordinator. Being a coordinator means exactly that, you coordinate the offense. The QB/Wr/Rb--or LB/DB coaches would be coaching their players during skelly, as it should be. A coordinator shouldn't coach other positions, he should coach the COACHES who coach other positions. Obviously filming practices help in these situations, but it isn't absolutely necessary.
What I highly recommend however, is that the coordinator (assuming he is the playcaller on game days) scripts the skell sessions. having one of the other coaches script it hinders friday night playcalling in my opinion.
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Post by coachorr on Dec 1, 2007 18:35:19 GMT -6
Coach 5085, thank you, I think I look too much in the short run sometimes. Although, I am not an HC or an OC right now (primarily because I have always been an oline coach, except this year I was on the dside of the ball) I have been wanting to know how I can continue to coach what I feel is the most important aspect of the game, or at leas the portion that I know the best.
Long term, coach the assistants and script the skelly. Great points, thanks.
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