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Post by groundchuck on Oct 20, 2005 21:54:34 GMT -6
This is a strange occurance from my team's last regular season game this past Wednesday night. At the start of the game the chain crew (we were visitors) started talking smack to my players, and coaches. These were grown men in thier 50s. So I get the attention of the lineman and he starts paying attention to it. After he hears it again he turns around and tells the chain crew to knock it off. Then a guy on the crew turns to me and calls me a little cry baby. I ignore it and walk away. In the 4th quarter it is obvious we are going to lose so I start subbing. I took a TO to get a few more kids in who deserved to play and the same guy in the chain gang tells me to "get a life". To which I looked and made sure the ref was out of ear shot, walked by them and replied "I have one, because unlike you I don't live in this hell hole you call a town." The guy drops the chains and starts after me telling me he will kick my mother ---- a**. The ref turns around, and starts in on him. I just stood there and smerked at the dickhead. Ref never heard me bait him of course. Yeah maybe I should have just walked away but I had had enough of his crap. Just picked my moment and had a little fun with the guy.
Has something that odd ever happened to you? I must say the officials had nothing to do with it and called a very good game. Just a little home cookin' on the chain crew.
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Post by tog on Oct 20, 2005 23:14:08 GMT -6
nope
nothing like that
if that would have happened to me, i would want the guy to swing at me so I could "protect myself"
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Post by Shake n' Bake on Oct 21, 2005 4:22:42 GMT -6
I was in a KC tie-Breaker during the state playoffs, we were on the road (largest HS div). We had a third and Goal so we call a timeout. I was over with our head coach discussing what we were gonna run near the field numbers. All sudden some drunk fan that had been standing right on the sidelines a couple yards away starts running down toward the end zone yelling "QB DRAW!!! " to the defensive huddle...... The play we had decided to run. He was sitting there listening to our playcall. Then ran and screamed it to the defense and continued to run over to their side of the stadium only to get lost into the crowd. So in an overtime game, we burnt our only time out, to have our play-call ruined by some drunk d!<ksmack. After we won, I laughed about it.........unreal.
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Post by tog on Oct 21, 2005 6:11:49 GMT -6
Have had drunks come down and try and fight the coaches before beacuse their boy isn't playing. (usually a threat of calling the cops and a cry from the kid "don't arrest my daddy" will get that over with quick as they usually have warrants out for them) never had one try and steal our plays though. Damn
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Post by amikell on Oct 21, 2005 6:24:24 GMT -6
i have actually had a inesman talk smack to our staff. there were a couple of calls that we thought were missed (they probably weren't missed, just our perception) some late hits, etc and so we question them. this guy starts in on us telling us this is how they play football out here. he then continues to berate our staff on the sideline. Basically, anytime we even questioned a call he had some smart @%% reply. At one point he told one of my staff to "go back to football school." I didn't get a card with all the officials' names on them before the game, so I went to the ref to ask this guy's name. As he hears me doing this, he yells "it's (whatever his name is) what are you going to do about it?" As he's doing this, he walks toward me puffing his chest out. we filed a complaint with his association, and come to find out, he's the head of the baseball ump association in that part of the state.
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Post by bulldog on Oct 21, 2005 13:28:20 GMT -6
We had something similar happen to us a couple of weeks ago. I wish I could say that it was only our perception that was wrong, but the film clearly showed that the refs in our game made numerous bad calls. We lost 23-20 in a game where we held our opponent to 5 yards rushing in 24 attempts. And we had over 400 yards of offense. A lot of critical holding calls, turnovers that were not really turnovers (one a 'tipped' punt by our return guy, and one a forward pass being ruled a lateral). OK, getting bad calls by the stripes is part of the game. We accept that. The worst part was the confrontational attitude of the white hat. When we questioned a call, he would come to our sideline and try to intimidate our coaches. He actually said to one of our coaches who asked him to call it fair, 'get used to it, because I will call this game however I want.' We filed a complaint and met with the head of the officials. We sat down with him and reviewed the film. In each case he agreed that his refs were wrong. We even had numerous people step forward to confirm the white hats' behaviour. What did the head of the officals do about it? NOTHING. The same bad white hat, who is an old-timer, is working critical games.
What burns me is that while our kids put in more time and more effort and improve their games, the stripes are getting worse. At least around here, arrogance is rampant. They won't communicate and they love to confront any perceived challenge. They issue sideline warnings - whenever you ask for a number of a player who committed a foul, or if you ask for an explanation. And if you show one a rule book and show them that they are wrong . . . .
I also don't understand why the stripes are so worried about stepping on each others' toes. Many times, we'll see an obvious foul or infraction. We'll point it out to him ("Look at #77, he's 15 yards downfield on the pass. Look he's right there!") - and he'll say 'Thats not my call'. I don't get it. He can see the infraction. He knows its a violation. Yet he won't talk to the guy who should have had the call. And he won't call it.
A couple of weeks ago, one of my DB's was covering a deep pass. He was on-top of the receiver and the pass was over-thrown. My DB was the only who could catch it. The receiver pushed the DB in the back and to the ground. The receiver had to stretch to reach the DB, so it was obviously a push. It looked even worse on film. I was in the ear of our sideline guy, 'that PI". No call. I asked him to talk to the back judge. He wouldn't I was talking nicely to him after the game and we talked about the no call. He informed me that he talked with the back judge and they compared notes. The back judge said he didn't see the push. The sideline guy said he definitely saw the push, but thought the ball was uncatchable. The back judge said the ball was catchable. Then they agreed they should have made the call. Again, the arrogance and the failure to communicate is my main issues. I just wish the stripes were as concerned about making correct calls and calling the game fair as they were about protecting themselves. When I looked at film later, you could see both the back judge and the sideline guy - their eyes were following the path of the ball, not watching the players. Oh well.
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