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Post by DLine06 on Dec 4, 2007 11:14:01 GMT -6
I think one of the more important aspects of non professional football is dealing with the grades. They're important (if or nothing else to have them be elligible to play).
So let's get to some logical and healthy discussion.
Coaches how do you deal with your players as far as grade problems.
Is there a punishment?
Do you knock a kid who misses class/doesn't do work compared to those that are actually struggling due to not understanding the material?
Does your program send out progress reports?
If a kid fails, do you kick him out the 1st time or rather give him chances?
Effective punishments such as running, horrible drills, etc.
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Post by jraybern on Dec 4, 2007 11:17:54 GMT -6
Just hound the crap out of them. Seriously. I have a small team and work in the building. I have a pretty respectful relationship with most of the kids. I pull them aside and hand them their grade sheets (I watch these weekly). By knowing that I am watching, it brings some accountability. I explain to them that it will be impossible for me to count on a kid that is ineligible. If the grades don't improve, I will not plan on using you in the ballgame out of fear that you won't be available. It usually gets better.....at least for a while.
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Post by cmow5 on Dec 4, 2007 11:32:46 GMT -6
What happened over the years? The first and last time I played was in the 7th grade (about 17 yrs ago) at the end of the season I let my grades slip. I don't remember what they were, but I know they involved more of these "F" then these A,B. I was kicked off the team no questions asked. Now I am coaching at the sames school I played for and we had a couple guys that let there grades slip and they got a chance to improve their grades before game time. The rule at the school is 2 F's and you cant play until you get those grades up, all but one did do the extra work. Next year I would like us to have a rule that if your grade drops below a C you cant play until you get it up and if you even get one F then you are done. By the way I am in college now and I am holding on to a 3.68 GPA. I am proud of myself so I thought I would toot my own horn. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by airraider on Dec 4, 2007 11:33:35 GMT -6
We do log rolls when report cards or progress reports come out. We make them roll around the whole field once for a D and twice for an F.
We have dropped from about 20 kids having to do rolls to about 8 over the last 15 weeks.
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Post by aztec on Dec 4, 2007 11:44:01 GMT -6
We now have the Aeries system so we can monitor every kid all the time which has been a huge help. What we do is the kids that are on probation or ineligible we check their progress each Friday. If they are missing any assignment for the week they have 50 updowns. Low test score are not as big of a deal in HS because you can still get a C in most classes by just doing all of the work. Once a player is over a 2.0 for a grading period then we will periodically check their grades every few weeks and punish as necessary. Or freshman struggle the most with grades as they transition into HS we only have about 3-5 kids out of 90 upper classmen that struggle each year.
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Post by CVBears on Dec 4, 2007 11:57:42 GMT -6
we do weekly progress reports. on each report, any D or F they run a "big bag." One "big bag" is a perimeter while carrying a tackling dummy. On our weekly progress report, we also have a spot for missing homework. Each assignment missed is five fumble drills (coach with a ball throws it about 10-15 yards away, sprint to the ball, cover it, sprint back to coach, repeat). We also have a "No F" policy school wide that goes into effect each quarter.
On a related note, what do you do for your boys during the off season? I have a way to check myself on their grades (it's not that time consuming) and I feel that it is part of my job to keep track of the boys year round. Obviously I can't have them do updowns or run big bags, but what CAN I do?
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Post by calicoachh on Dec 4, 2007 12:44:28 GMT -6
for the kids that have grade problems, we have homework logs, they write down thier assignments, they have thier teachers initial that they wrote the assignments down correctly, then they have to show a coach thier completed homework on the day that it is due. if they do not do this, they run after practice. in the offseason, we can run some of them that are not in a winter sport or with some kids we do not allow them to lift that day, thus they get pressure from thier teammates because they are now hurting the team by not lifting. it has worked pretty well
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Post by lsrood on Dec 4, 2007 13:01:54 GMT -6
We have a weekly reporting system in the school where if a player is failing 1 class he is ineligible for that week. I'm in the building so I can monitor their grades and have a very good relationship with my fellow teachers and they keep me informed if someone is having problems. We arrange tutoring for them and allow them to come to practice late if they are being tutored with no penalty. Since we start practice a little later it usually only means missing part of our stretching period and I can live with that if it helps keep their grades up. We stress academics to the players and with the weekly reporting system they know they have to keep their grades up. This is my second year as HC and we haven't had a player ineligible yet!
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Post by k on Dec 4, 2007 13:40:44 GMT -6
One F or a GPA under 70 = off the team by school rules. Yes. Gone not allowed to practice with us or even be at practice/on the sidelines till he is eligible. Additionally kids who get an A on their progress report or report card get a "non game" sticker for their helmets.
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Post by hsrose on Dec 4, 2007 13:50:56 GMT -6
Our school is a little different on grades. No D's or F's, we have I's and NC's. 2-I's and no extracurricular activities until cleared, school policy. NC and no way.
I's have to be cleared by a contract (extra work) with the teacher (so many worksheets, pages of reading, writing, whatever, to get the grade to a C, in a certain time period). NC's can't be raised and results in no units for the course. That means summer school, local JC, adult school.
The advantage of this is that a kid can't slide with a D. The I's have to be worked off or they become NC's which means no units.
We do bi-weekly progress reports, with private discussions on performance. No penalties, just help.
Casey IHS Vikings
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