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Post by tog on Feb 24, 2006 11:14:32 GMT -6
do any of you do your condition before practice so the kids don't save up for it?
and then base the next day's conditioning on how the tempo was on the previous day's practice?
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Post by airman on Feb 24, 2006 11:18:24 GMT -6
i belive in it. kids have to learn how to play when they are tired. it is great for lineman. also if you are a no huddle team, it helps as well. just my opinions however.
i like the middle screen so we use this as a conditioner on air. it gets everyone running.
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Post by brophy on Feb 24, 2006 11:18:50 GMT -6
we do it right after special team work (immediately proceeds dynamic stretch)
5-10 minutes of conditioning......we use a 45 second drill where the kids (based on position) run the length of the field twice in under 45 seconds. We usually do 4 of these more or less depending on 'attitudes'....this is followed by a 15 minute high tempo fundamental drill circuit.
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Post by iahc on Feb 24, 2006 11:43:00 GMT -6
Interesting stuff. That is the way we did it in college and I've always thought about incorporating it in to our stuff now at high school. How do you handle the athletes that coast during conditioning knowing that they have practice remaining?
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Post by brophy on Feb 24, 2006 11:45:10 GMT -6
simple....if they can't get it done in 45 seconds...(backs would be 35 seconds) we do more...because OBVIOUSLY it's a conditioning 'problem' (that can be fixed).
If the times don't continue to IMPROVE.....we do MORE....when they do improve, it means we are conditioned!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2006 12:55:03 GMT -6
If you have read the book "Coaching Football Successfully" by former Augustana College Coach Bob Reade he mentions "stations" in his chapter on practice organization. After warm-ups his teams would go through 4-6 fundamental stations (agility, tackling, blocking, ropes, etc.) and finish with the 40 second drill (across and back the field twice). After these were completed the players took a break and went into individual and team work. There was no conditioning scheduled at the end of practice.
After 26 seasons of this format he had lost only 27 games total. A lot of people in Illinois have adopted this strategy and it continues to be successful for all the reasons that you mentioned above. I feel it is important to use fundamental drills to condition rather than just straight running.
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Post by CoachBrink on Feb 24, 2006 13:10:53 GMT -6
In college, we used Kickoff and Kickoff Return at the beginning of practice to condition. It made our kicking game very effective.
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Post by mrfr33z3 on Feb 24, 2006 13:29:10 GMT -6
Well guys here's an Idea to conditioning that we used when I was in College about a year agao, we called it "MPC" it's Middle of Practice Conditioning , what it is a 10-15min. slot incorporated into the practice time for conditioning whether it be the length of the field twice in 45 sec. or the Pittsburg drill we use to do this about half way through practice, My coaches say it gets us to focus on finishing strong when you are tired. trust me it works .(IMO) and I plan on using it with my HS team this upcoming season to see if it works just as it did in College for me.
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Post by mcrsa75 on Feb 24, 2006 15:25:26 GMT -6
I like to knock out two birds with one stone. For example, the offensive team must sprint 15 yards after each play and sprint back to the huddle. The play does not count if execution is not flawless (no offsides, busted assign.). Consequently, the team is working on execution in addition to "conditioning".
I would perform a similar drill with the defense. Does anyone else conduct it in this manner?
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Post by mike13 on Feb 24, 2006 16:10:10 GMT -6
We do conditioning twice per day. We run at the begining of practice and then finish with either a conditioning team drill (KO/KO return) or more sprints. However, if the kids bust thier butts we cut back or eliminate the sprints at the end.
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Post by iahc on Feb 24, 2006 21:50:14 GMT -6
mcrsa75, we do "all 11 to the ball" drill where all 11 defensive players must sprint to the ball once it is down, then sprint back to the huddle. Maybe having all 11 sprint to the ball on an incomplete pass as well.
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Post by jhanawa on Feb 26, 2006 12:13:16 GMT -6
In college, we regularly ran 10x100's, 10x40's, 5 sideline to SL,SL,SL gassers, all timed by position, then 4 quarters of updowns (25each quarter) on hit/hit,hit cadence with arms to ear holes/thigh pads, any flinches or delays in movement added quarters. We start practice with stretch, agilities and 10 40's, but don't consider it conditioning, thats just warming up. We have tried to incorporate conditioning into everyday drills, like playtiming on air through sets of cones for 30 yards (weave drill), or two minute offense up and down the field. We also do a drill called Burma Roads where we set up the tall tackling dummies about 40 yards apart zigzagging down the field with 6 dummies, the players sprint to the dummy, tackle it, pop up and continue through all the dummies down the field, any loafing or not tackling it full speed gets the player moved directly to the front of the line without rest to do it again. For competition, we do shuttle relay races where the players carrier the dummies 40yds to their teammates. Sometimes when practice just isn't getting done with intensity, we will stop whatever we are doing and go back to the "old school" and just line up and run till the whistle runs out of air.
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Post by ocinaz on Feb 27, 2006 14:20:53 GMT -6
Just attended the Glazier Clinic in Arizona and was amazed how many teams do this, most did it right after warming up or after special teams.
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Post by knighter on Feb 27, 2006 14:28:24 GMT -6
We start every practice with a 10 minute county fair
Get every player going somewhere (punters = punt, kickers = kick, snappers = snap, returners are fielding for kickers and punters, TE, WB's catching balls from QB's, OL in an OL segment working anything that needs to be worked on) Next we do Dynamic Warmup Than we follow with 10 minute agility stations we go to special team of the day after the above....
has worked well for us so far
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Post by coachseven on Feb 27, 2006 16:02:54 GMT -6
We do our condtioning before practice. We do a dynamic warm-up (Lines) and then we break into groups and do what we call County Fair. Each coach takes a station ie. Sled, cones, dummies, ropes, sprints, grass drills, and chutes and run the kids through a series of timed events (usually 1 - 2.5 Minutes per station.) We put seniors in charge of each group and if the intenesity is not there we do the station over. We try to chage the drills each day to avoid monotony. Have found it is also good because it allows each coach to coach each kid. Our kids really like it. We do end practice everydaywith some light conditioning just to have closier to practice. For example we might run 4 - 40's.
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