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Post by rocketcoach on Dec 19, 2007 18:47:26 GMT -6
Every year we face a few games in a row against teams that are not very competitive (can win going through the motions type game). After that stretch it seems it takes a game or two to execute well again. I don't like this! Just wondering if any of you face this situation and what you do to over-come it. Something besides "we are competing against ourselves guys" pep-talk stuff. Have tried to turn up intensity in practice with extra scrimmage time etc. but nothing really seems to help. Any thoughts?
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dgs
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Post by dgs on Dec 19, 2007 19:09:20 GMT -6
We had a couple games this year like that. We focused a great deal in practice and during the game on alignment, assignment, and hustle. There was zero tolerance for players. If they slipped in any area we yanked them out and put their back up in for them. If the whole unit messed up they conditioned. Versus one team we score +50 in the first half, playing starters as well as subs. It was probably our best half this year of execution and hustling.
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Post by carson101 on Dec 19, 2007 20:14:31 GMT -6
This is interesting, a few years back we played several teams in our league that we simply dominated. This turned out to be what I believe a lack of the league commissioner not providing a league schedule based off of strength instead of enrollment,things have changed since and I believe for the time being it is somewhat better. What I find we struggle with is after dominating for so long our kids expect to win and wind up believing that reguardless how much we put into or practice. I see the teams we play now and our schedule is downright tough this last season was probably the worst in school historyn not because our prep was weak but injuries and just 1 play away from winning caused us to lose. We have a great group of coaches that take a tremendous amount of time preping for our season and games breaking down everything that the other team does. Back to the question the intensity has to be consistant, disapline has to dictate the team, no holds barred sell out to the team concept git rid of the offense vs defense alliances and make it a everyone team no cliks or individual attitudes and simply what the heck are we here to accomplish attitude that everyone buys into. I see so many teams with these issues and they simply self destruct.
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Post by dubber on Dec 19, 2007 21:06:30 GMT -6
I was reading a book on the military conquests of Joshua
The lesson he knew, and later generals ignored, was you need a plan after victory too. After the fray is won, how do you keep the enemy from regrouping and coming back? In essence, how do you keep what you won?
Kids always need challenges..........I like the approach dgs used
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Post by aztec on Dec 19, 2007 21:31:47 GMT -6
We play a few team like that. One in pre-league and one in league. Pre-league the focus in on the starters taking care of business as soon as possible so that every senior in the program who is not going to play other wise is going to get 3 quarters of time in. Also it get the rest of the young JV studs into the game. This year I had a Senior kid who is 5-3 130 lbs get 4 defelections and a INT and one ball over his head in the game. I had 2 other senior LBers playing. I let guys know how important this is to them and why they should be excited to kick the crap out of them early to the other guys can play. In league it is the same talk but it is league so more is on the line. I like to make sure my seniors will play and get a lot of time. Those memories will last a lifetime for those kids.
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Post by tothehouse on Dec 19, 2007 23:15:25 GMT -6
Focus on yourself. What can your team get better at that week in practice? I'm guessing a team wasn't perfect the week previous. Focus on those mistakes and practice with intensity to fix those mistakes.
You see, there was never a mention of the next weeks opponent. Doesn't matter if you are playing someone who is undefeated or has NO wins....you should focus on your plan.
Also, when we are playing someone who isn't very good and the back ups get in...they must play well. If they go in and lay and egg they come out. Those back ups work their butts off to get on the field and will go hard, but offensively they have to move the ball and defensively have to stop people. We don't play back ups to have 5 TDs scored against them.
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Post by carson101 on Dec 19, 2007 23:39:38 GMT -6
House has the idea since I am an under level coach in the same program,the back up players have to be the ones that make us succeed they are the opponets offense and defense in our scout prep if they practice without intensity it makes it difficult for our starting team to dial in on what the game scenerio is gonna be. It also helps the back ups be prepared so that they play at the top of their game as well. Game by game week by week.
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Post by tedseay on Dec 20, 2007 2:40:06 GMT -6
I think setting appropriate goals is a big factor. I go into a season trying to establish the mindset that we have definite goals we want to accomplish every week, and winning forms only a part of this goal pyramid. Other goals involve specific targets for offense, defense & ST, character standards (no personal fouls, etc.), and I try to make these progressive as the season goes on -- raising the bar over time, and constantly expecting a higher standard of the kids on the team than they have displayed in the past, if only by degrees -- I try never to raise the bar so high that it is completely out of reach. When playing bottom-feeding programs, I try to make the connection between winning, performing, and excelling as men as well as excelling as football players. Every time we knock the daylights out of an opponent, I want to see a hand reaching out to help him up -- and then we're going to do our best to knock him down the next play, and the next. Other goals have to do with hustle, with precision, and generally with keeping the machine not only running at full RPM, but gleaming clean...when setting goals, think about how you'd like your team to perform and to behave, then set the goals accordingly, giving them room either to improve or to maintain perfection every week. Hope that makes sense.
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Post by goldenbear76 on Dec 20, 2007 3:02:49 GMT -6
For us its easy, when we play teams that aren't very good..we don't show film on that team. We'll tell our kids that we decided against trading films or something. We talk about how good they are, Lou Holtz strategy. We prepare for them just like any other teams. This has been effective for us, because we seem to go into every game focused. If kids see the scores though, and tell us that the team we're playing isn't very good, then we simply say.."if that's the case, I expect a perfect game from you then."
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Post by carson101 on Dec 20, 2007 3:10:12 GMT -6
Our frosh coaches don't show film but what we do do is script the other teams plays run scout and tell the kids these guys are really good and fast so that we get the results we are looking for seems to work. i think one time we let them see film and they were more intimidated than if we waited until game time so we stick to script.
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Post by morris on Dec 20, 2007 7:41:51 GMT -6
Setting goals is a key like Seay stated. If they are a lesser opponent then we expect to results on a higher level. A former Miami player was once asked about the "swagger" and stated it was beating the people you are suppose to beat in the manner your suppose to beat them.
Since we are a 2 platoon team for the most part it allows our D guys to play some O for use so that is motivation. We also start slowly working guys in instead of whole sale subs. We look at games like this as key times to get young guys work and to work on a few things we normally do not do in games. We prep the same way each week no matter who and stress "doing your job". We expect our player no matter who it is to do their job. I think these are the games you end up doing more coaching in as a whole. Gives a good chance to see how much you can put on your players.
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Post by rocketcoach on Dec 20, 2007 10:37:01 GMT -6
Thanks guys. Some good input. I especially like the goal setting. Some concrete measuring sticks for success in the game and maybe with a consequence if they are not met. As far as not showing film, the kids are on to me. I heard one kid in the locker room this year say "this must be a bad team because everytime we don't watch film on a team they are terrible." Also with teams in our league that are consistently bad, I have run out of things to say, like..."this new coach will really have them playing well" "this will be a break-out year for them" "they have some new great athletes" After years of the same thing the kids have caught on. We do prep the same way for everygame but I think the goal setting might be the key. Thanks.
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