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Post by tog on Jun 28, 2005 18:31:07 GMT -6
this is a qustion from phantom, I changed the question a little, but this is the main point
do you have certain populations within your school that don't play? How do you work around it?
be carefull with racial things with this sticky question,
it is a good question that Phantom raised, in fact the question he raised is the opposite of what we face, but there is really no need to bring one race or another into it, the main thing is, how do you get certain groups in your school that may not play football to come out? be it baseball, basketball, soccer, white, black, green, whatever.
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Post by tog on Jun 28, 2005 18:52:57 GMT -6
now, I think the answer is,
show the kids you care about them more as people than as players, this cannot be faked
also share your passion for the game with them, if they don't share some of that passion and don't get excited about it, and are not willing to put in the time and effort it takes, then you probably don't want them anyway
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Post by coachkd on Jul 1, 2005 15:58:23 GMT -6
The biggest dissapointment of coaching HS (now my 2nd year) is that I thought the kids would be as excited about football as I am.... very very few are. My sophomore QB last year passed for 2300 yards and was all league, he would rather play grab ass than learn about pass coverage.
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Post by coachcalande on Jul 2, 2005 4:11:53 GMT -6
wow, 5 hours a day....yeah., thats tough on a 15 or 16 year old. this is an interesting question. times have changed and kids have many many option. sports arent the end all be all that they once were, chicks are just as much into money, drugs and that sort of stuff so being an athlete doesnt mean the same. making it fun is what brings kids out, im not surprised more kids are leaning toward other things with the kind of demands this sport now places on them...still, when a school becomes a dynasty, the community changes, the kids change, more football minds gravitate to the area and eventually its a football community where kids play football in the endzones on friday nights dreaming of their opportunity to be part of the program....mediocre programs that make it like a job...eh, the kids can go play "fall ball", "madden 2005" or "lacrosse". many new distractions too....porn easily accessible, ecstacy, girls on girls and group sex starting in 6th grade...its rediculous.
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Post by coachkd on Jul 2, 2005 6:31:05 GMT -6
I hear what you are saying coach.... I guess I am just too much old school and believe football is a reward in and of itself, it is just fun because it is football and not because the coach lets us play relay games at the end of practice instead of conditioning, or he shows us Friday Night Lights on Monday after practice instead of a film session from last Friday's game.
I guess I don't want to win bad enough to cater to some of these cretins, I think I am leaning towards just lining them all up on the first day of spring ball, then running their ass for two hours... do this the first week every day and who ever shows up the next Monday are the kids who really want to play and just work with them.
Do yourself a favor and rent the dvd "Coach Carter", here is one example where you can go old school on these kids today and succeed.
I mean really, you would rather stay home and surf internet porn with your Homies instead of learning how to shred C3 with all the different forms of a full field horizontal stretch?
Sorry for the rant Coach, I know I am preaching to the choir.
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Post by coachcalande on Jul 2, 2005 10:45:48 GMT -6
oooh...so what do you think the problem is? is their racial tension? i went to temple university in philly, and every so often id go to the basketball courts...never once was included in the pickup games....even if it was my ball lol...being white had alot to do with it. they just figured i couldnt play. ...they were right ;D
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Post by Split50 on Jul 2, 2005 11:29:54 GMT -6
I agree with tog about showing them you care about them. There are a lot of coaches who say that, but their actions don't reflect it. I don't think you have to make it "fun". The fun comes from winning. You can have discipline; in fact, you had better have discipline; just be fair and consistent. Set out the parameters from the start. Work with them as individuals. Realize they have other concerns and problems and be ready to work with them to resolve those problems. Stay on their tails about the classroom and their behavior all the time. That is how you show them you love them and care about them. When they know that, they will join you in whatever you are doing.
Just my take on it.
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Post by tog on Jul 2, 2005 17:04:38 GMT -6
split's right, there are a lot that say it, basically you have to earn it with the kids having confidence in you having their best interests at heart
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Post by phantom on Jul 2, 2005 18:38:47 GMT -6
All of this is what has me so baffled. We have been successful (46-6 with two state championships over the last 4 years), get kids into school (3 1As, a 1AA, and 3 D2's this year), and we have a good relationship with the kids. Still can't get those kids out, though, and I don't know why.
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