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Post by FlexboneOne on Nov 3, 2007 16:50:36 GMT -6
God, I love that offense. What a hell of a game!! If you ever needed a reason why to run the option, It speaks VOLUMES for this offense that it can make a service academy competitve vs. Div 1 schools.
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Post by autigers on Nov 3, 2007 17:21:36 GMT -6
I could not agree more.
TRIPLE OPTION LIVES
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Post by spreadbone on Nov 3, 2007 17:31:03 GMT -6
THEY MUST FEAR THE VEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO NAVY! That was a great game, those guys deserved that win!
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Post by groundchuck on Nov 3, 2007 17:52:04 GMT -6
Gotta say I loved it.
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Post by sls on Nov 3, 2007 18:21:57 GMT -6
one of the most entertaining games that i have ever seen!!!
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Post by dacoachmo on Nov 3, 2007 18:23:54 GMT -6
don't forget the rocket sweep!!!
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Post by Yash on Nov 3, 2007 19:05:18 GMT -6
Its a sad year to be a notre dame fan. Sometimes you gotta hit rock bottom before you can get back to the top. As an Irish fan, it can't get much lower, so hopefully next year it goes up.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 3, 2007 19:12:11 GMT -6
well, ND is a BAD football team, and they are playing BADLY. However, I do have to say that the Middies are scoring a TON of points this year.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2007 21:17:03 GMT -6
Navy really needed this and it has nothing to do with the 43 year streak--they needed to rebound from losing to a 1-AA (or whatever it's called now) in Deleware last week.
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Post by coachorr on Nov 4, 2007 0:50:41 GMT -6
Here Here to Flexboneone! I echo your comments. Way to go Navy. Funnest team to watch(especially since Ari Force and Delaware are no longer what they used to be). Too bad I did not get to see the game.
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Post by sls on Nov 4, 2007 6:16:52 GMT -6
should Charlie have kicked the ball at the end of the 4th?
I was shocked that he did not.
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Post by coachveer on Nov 4, 2007 7:22:46 GMT -6
Paul Johnson is going to look great in Husker Red next year...
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Post by khalfie on Nov 4, 2007 8:49:41 GMT -6
Here Here to Flexboneone! I echo your comments. Way to go Navy. Funnest team to watch(especially since Ari Force and Delaware are no longer what they used to be). Too bad I did not get to see the game. Great point wolverine... Navy just got spanked by Delaware? Nothing against the triple... but where was it then? ND is piss poor! Year 3 and it has hit rock bottom... The real question is... how much better can this ND team get? Most teams go from 1-8 to 3-6... is that going to make the ND faithful feel any better? Can ND's defense get that much better in 1 year? IMO... this is only the beginning for ND... the top recruit phenomenon will take the next hit... they'll be back to not being able to recruit the stud athletes... as was the excuse when Ty took over... and then what? |
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Post by wildcat on Nov 4, 2007 9:16:59 GMT -6
The real question is... how much better can this ND team get? Most teams go from 1-8 to 3-6... is that going to make the ND faithful feel any better? Can ND's defense get that much better in 1 year? IMO... this is only the beginning for ND... the top recruit phenomenon will take the next hit... they'll be back to not being able to recruit the stud athletes... as was the excuse when Ty took over... and then what? ND has had great recruiting classes for what? 3 years now? Top 10 or so? Where is that talent? It's not like Charlie inherited Little Sisters of the Poor...there was good players at ND when he got there and he has recruited very well. The thing is, for whatever reason, those 3 years or so of blue-chip recruiting classes have not translated into wins. Even the two good years Charlie has had...no wins over Top 25 teams, blowout losses in both bowl games...heck, the two things that ND in the Weis era are most well known for are a comeback win against a severely underachieving Michigan State team and the loss to USC. The guy was a great NFL OC. The guy can recruit. I don't think that there is a question about that. With that being said, why is that talent not performing? |
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Post by fort on Nov 4, 2007 9:17:23 GMT -6
Charlie made some some poor decisions yesterday (not kicking the FG in the 4th). That said, ND will be fine going forward. This season is already a loss, and I'm not expecting anything from them. They've got a lot of talent and next season's recruiting class should be top-5 again. Returning only 7 total starters while giving none of the new starters much playing time the past few seasons dug their own grave.
Air Force and Duke should result in wins for ND. Stanford is going to be a good game. 3-9/4-8 sucks, but (hopefully) having some momentum going into next season helps a little.
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Post by trojan on Nov 4, 2007 9:31:40 GMT -6
should Charlie have kicked the ball at the end of the 4th? I was shocked that he did not. Seems like the action of a guy that is sure to lead Notre Dame back to prominence... Having said that, I'm reading what I expected to read from some: tear down the value of the win by Navy by reminding us of the poor quality of the 2007 Irish. Lame. All the time people come up with stuff like, "We woulda won if my starting tailback hadn't been ineligible," or other crap like that that. Well, guess what, I would have led undefeated teams every year if... The bottom line: Charlie and that little leprechaun guy gave up the first loss to Navy in forever. |
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Post by Shotgun1 on Nov 4, 2007 10:55:52 GMT -6
Deleware is awesome this year and could compete with may 1a schools. Their RB is a true stud that will probably get drafted. UD's only loss is to New Hampshire.
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Post by coachdawhip on Nov 4, 2007 11:04:36 GMT -6
coachveer,
I just think Craig Bohl gets the job before Johnson even though he should.
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Post by cmow5 on Nov 4, 2007 11:08:22 GMT -6
I was at the game and I will never get over it. 4th and 8 from the 24 and he goes for it don't worry 80,000 fans let him know it. I agree with Trojan that one play did not lose the game for ND. The lack of motivation loss the game for the Irish. Navy came out of the tunnel and knew they had a chance. That was the first time I seen ND came out with almost no excitement. I really think the fans were more pumped up for the game. Now, lets talk recruiting we did have top 10 classes the last two years and this year we have 22 verbals and all are top 150 players that is the most in the country. Lemming ranks us at #3 and almost everyone else #1. we will have the talent soon. Right now none of them are considering de committing in fact #5 RB decommited from NEB and came to ND and the #3WR decommtied from ARZ and will be at ND. All of them are saying they know Weis will be there next year and they do not know about the other coaches. As a Coach with no playing experience and a HUGE ND fan I really hope weis can do well, But I am getting really nervous for the future.
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Post by coachcalande on Nov 4, 2007 12:30:15 GMT -6
why would johnson leave navy? seems to me like a perfect job for him.
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Post by fbdoc on Nov 4, 2007 13:19:12 GMT -6
It was a great game to watch! Those Navy Lineman - the QB - great discipline and effort. Everything you want to see from your own players. And how about the NAVY linebacker FLYING over the block to sack the Notre Dame QB? WOW!
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 4, 2007 13:25:43 GMT -6
why would johnson leave navy? seems to me like a perfect job for him. Why did you leave your last gig? Now combine THAT, with LOTS MORE $$$$ and you have your answer |
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Post by coachcb on Nov 4, 2007 14:11:29 GMT -6
Goddang, I love watching veer football; great stuff. Notre Dame looked clueless trying to defend it throughout most of the game; guys out of position all day long. Even when they were playing their assignments, Kaipo-Noa Kaheaku-Enhada made things happen with his feet.
Hard to feel bad for ND after what they did to Willingham 3 years ago. In fact, I was a die hard Irish fan (Catholic family) before that; now I don't care what happens to them.
ND and their record is kind of mystery to everyone; top recruiting classes the past 3 years but no production. They didn't return many starters this year last years senior was solid. And guess what? They were Willingham's recruits.
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Post by coachcalande on Nov 4, 2007 15:39:16 GMT -6
why would johnson leave navy? seems to me like a perfect job for him. Why did you leave your last gig? Now combine THAT, with LOTS MORE $$$$ and you have your answer youre kidding right? My last gig gave me very little control, I think Johnson has plenty of control over what systems navy runs. My last gig gave me 0 chance of working my way to becoming a HC, johnson is a HC and running what he knows and loves. I dont see why hed want to leave, hes a HERO to Navy Fans, which I am one. |
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Post by coachveer on Nov 4, 2007 15:52:04 GMT -6
Heck, right now Johnson is just another Employee of our Federal Government.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 4, 2007 15:59:46 GMT -6
NO ...YOU must be the one who is kidding... or you have no clue to the personality disposition of NCAA Div1 head coaches.
Johnson is a HC, at a school that cannot and will not ever compete at the level that those who get to that level want to compete at.
MONEY, and the chance to compete for a BCS championship. Those are the reasons.
You left your last gig to WORK your way up...same thing for Johnson
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Post by wildcat on Nov 4, 2007 16:03:44 GMT -6
NO ...YOU must be the one who is kidding... or you have no clue to the personality disposition of NCAA Div1 head coaches. Johnson is a HC, at a school that cannot and will not ever compete at the level that those who get to that level want to compete at. MONEY, and the chance to compete for a BCS championship. Those are the reasons. You left your last gig to WORK your way up...same thing for Johnson Not only that, but Johnson really doesn't have all that much "control" at Navy...when you consider all of the things that take precedence over football at Annapolis, Johnson really does not have that much control. |
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Post by coachcalande on Nov 4, 2007 16:08:05 GMT -6
well, if he left and took a job at another school he might soon find himself in a situation where he gets that " look we really need to get the offense into the 21st century" speech..regardless of winning and competing. happened to him once and Im sure it will happen again. He can stay right there at Navy and make a bunch of hard working good kids happy to play football for him while coaching the way he wants to coach. Oh and beat the living daylights out of Army- what else is there?
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Post by coachdawhip on Nov 4, 2007 16:17:34 GMT -6
Johnson leaves if someone offers, he wants to coach on a bigger level to prove his system works. I can think of some places that works hopefully for him, he finds the right fit.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 4, 2007 16:19:26 GMT -6
that doesn't compute. He would be getting hired for his current successes. That kind of stuff would all be ironed out during the interview phase.
what else is there?
PILES OF MONEY AND A CHANCE FOR THE BCS CHAMPIONSHIP.
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