crl
Junior Member
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Post by crl on Oct 1, 2007 14:59:55 GMT -6
Hi Guys Bunch it, that's right bunch it and set the x wide. I sent in a power point on working the red zone and goal line specifically some time ago. I have a strong belief of condensing the offense as you go deep into the red zone-the defense must adjust, the tighter they get the better the outside becomes,( studied Andy Reid for this) tighten those formations up, I started to work with a full houseT ala wishbone and started to run Snaps. Look at my old blog site(under my name) which I have been very slow in updating. Then I took the Pistol and it was a natural fit. As for the Bunch, the question was How can I condense and expand...well keep X wide and run a tight bunch out a flex( 3 to 4 yards)....this really lays havoc on the defense- as for the read , your weakside read if you stretch it should be the 3 area(hole)- if you angle the back or offset him as mentioned eariler then it is very simple, you just expand the stretch.
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Post by coachrob76 on Oct 2, 2007 8:14:20 GMT -6
I am looking for anyone that runs an I offense out of the Pistol. We are traditionally an I formation team running lead, trap, power, iso, toss, and so on. I was wondering if anyone has transitioned from the I to the Pistol, but kept the I play philosophy, running the same plays, just in the Pistol. We traditionally run the ball well, but I love the flexibility the Pistol would give us over just the standard I formation.
Any help would be great.
Coach Rob
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 2, 2007 8:19:37 GMT -6
Rob--what flexibility would the pistol give you? Without thinking TO deeply on the subject, all I see is that you would be backing up your RB's and now disrupting the timing at the point of attack?
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Post by coachrob76 on Oct 2, 2007 8:49:28 GMT -6
I probably did not explain enough. Next years QB is very athletic and we have discussed adding some option to the offense, and I like the angles that are created by the Pistol. Also, I would like to hurry up the passing game and incorporate more playactions and roll outs. I think the Pistol gives the QB the ability to see the field better and faster. Also, I think the pistol would help us get the QB more involved in the run game. In my mind, what I am thinking and picturing, it gives us the ability to run what we are good at, plus open the offense a little more like a shotgun option team.
I could be wrong and it could look like garbage, but I would sure like to take a hard look at it.
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 2, 2007 9:19:32 GMT -6
I agree with what you are saying, but...like I said, if you stay in the "I" formation, then aren't you basically backing up the FB and TB to accomdate for the QB in the pistol. Wouldn't this force the OL to block more on power,iso, counter..etc.?
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Post by CVBears on Oct 2, 2007 21:41:44 GMT -6
nevada has a TE aligned as a wing and can motion to wherever he needs to go and block just like a FB would in an I formation.
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Post by tog on Oct 3, 2007 13:59:21 GMT -6
nevada has a TE aligned as a wing and can motion to wherever he needs to go and block just like a FB would in an I formation. we do this as well we never use a true te more of an h back that we can motion for power stuff and misdirection stuff
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Post by coachjuice on Jan 16, 2008 12:48:43 GMT -6
I am planning on putting the Pistol in this up coming season. We were an Air-Raid type team for the past couple of years because we had big-arm QB's and speed on the outside. Now we have a big RB and young (sophomore) athletic QB. Very weak up front and very young everywhere. Am I crazy for thinking the Pistol will work. I want to run the ball but spread everyone out. I love the Pistol because my RB will be going down hill. I have done a lot of research on this and alot of you guys have helped me out. If I run more option out of the Pistol will it give me an advantage? The team has been very unsuccessful for years. I am hoping to turn that around. HELP!!!
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Post by thamiam on Jan 16, 2008 13:22:08 GMT -6
I am looking for anyone that runs an I offense out of the Pistol. We are traditionally an I formation team running lead, trap, power, iso, toss, and so on. I was wondering if anyone has transitioned from the I to the Pistol, but kept the I play philosophy, running the same plays, just in the Pistol. We traditionally run the ball well, but I love the flexibility the Pistol would give us over just the standard I formation. Any help would be great. Coach Rob I've been developing a playbook for running the traditional I-formation playbook out of a "cocked" Pistol set, with the FB offset next to the QB either strong or weak. The idea is to have the standard I-form game plan, with 2 benefits: 1) Hide the HB behind the QB to delay LBs (basic Pistol advantage) 2) Add in the zone-read triple option, with the HB starting behind the QB instead of aligned next to him. Unfortunately, I don't know when I will get the chance to implement it in real life and provide some results. But it looks pretty on paper! (I know, they all do) ;D
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coacher
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Post by coacher on Jan 16, 2008 14:20:12 GMT -6
We ran it this year every snap except when we went empty. LOVED IT. We tried a little bit with the offset back but everytime we went to it it would just bring another backer in the box. Mainly went 4 wide spread the field and ran the ball quite effectively out of it. We ran IZRead, Counter Read, QB Counter, Draw, Speed Opt, QB Draw & Jet. Zone Read and our counters probably accounted for 80% of our run plays.
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Post by smurfturf on Jan 17, 2008 7:26:26 GMT -6
We were in it every snap as well. We averaged 260 yds/game and we were 3-7! We are rebuilding a program. That is the best record for this school in the last 10 years!! Pistol gave us great advantages. We ran the option out of the pistol. I have links to our playbooks and some video clips on the website: www.fbcoaches.com
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Post by 3stepdrop on Jan 17, 2008 10:18:04 GMT -6
We ran the pistol for the first time last season. Split back veer the six prior seasons. Our tailback rushed for 1700 yards and 21 TD's. Best and most used play was inside zone/read. As soon as our tailback began hurting teams our less than athletic QB would get a pull read and hurt the defense. In my opinion it really slows down an attacking defense and makes you defend both options. Counter and QB counter were also effective as we read on those plays as well. Needless to say it opened up the play action game bigtime. Probably the biggest advantage as our QB's think the reads are easier because there is more time created to do so. Tailbacks like the dowhill action when carrying the ball as well.
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Post by smurfturf on Jan 17, 2008 12:49:06 GMT -6
I agree with you. It makes the reads much easier. I think the counter option and QB counter are great plays as well. Most teams keyed on our back and the linebackers were flying to the direction our back went. We didn't have the Counter and QB counter last season, but I look forward to having them this season!
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Post by pmbarber on Jan 21, 2008 15:27:54 GMT -6
Can anyone point me in a direction where I could find some cut ups of the zone read play out of the Pistol? Maybe even a playbook that shows the footwork of the back and QB on the play. Thank you in advance.
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