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Post by coachcalande on Jan 31, 2006 13:11:09 GMT -6
;D How many of you guys have middle school (7th and 8th grade) staffs with just 2 coaches? how do they give proper attention to qbs/rec/backs/oline....des, interior dline, inside lbers, outside lbers and dbacks to coach up your varsity schemes?....In the past I have always coached the oline and tes and let my assistant coach up the backs and qb....i am considering a staggered practice approach on some days.
Love to hear from some middle school coaches on this...
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Post by fort on Jan 31, 2006 13:22:49 GMT -6
The middle school I'm going to talk to soon only has 3 guys for two teams (7th and 8th). There had to be about 50+ kids out there. I figure they need help and I'm looking for my first gig, so it'll hopefully be for the best for both parties.
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Post by brophy on Jan 31, 2006 13:22:50 GMT -6
they don't ......they base all the kids in fundamentals but the youth program (3 - 6th grade) is where a lot of the meat-and-potatoes is taught.
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vind
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Post by vind on Jan 31, 2006 13:39:34 GMT -6
I think it is hard to justify that much attention for MS players. As long as you can teach the fundamentals you should be good. Youth programs hopefully started that learning process but some kids need to catch up and you may be teaching them a far different system. IMO the area that is the biggest concern from an Xs and Os standpoint is the O line and the front 7-8 on D. I would try and give all the kids some experience at these positions even if they are not perfect fits now. This is where most of the teaching has to happen, and where the coaches should focus their attention. One reason I wouldn't put too much pressure on a MS team to do everything is because of my experience in MS. Our MS team didn't lose for 7 years. My school was in no way a powerhouse football program, but at the MS level our players were way ahead of the other players physically. The guys that started on the line in MS ended up being short flankers in HS.  |
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Post by brophy on Jan 31, 2006 13:47:34 GMT -6
At the middle school level....personally, I think it's vitally important that EVERY KID PLAYS....irregardless of the outcome. You could go 19-0 at the middle school level or the Freshmen level, or the Sophomore level and no one gives a ****. Varsity is what matters and pays the bills. Get as many kids interested and involved and leave them with a positive experience so you will have the body count in four years.
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Post by iahc on Jan 31, 2006 14:15:13 GMT -6
Brophy is exactly right! Kids need a positive experience with football at the youth level. Unfortunately my youngest brother had a horrible experience and was turned off to the game before he hit 7th grade.
The school I'm at now has a 5th and 6th grade program that is thriving. Great leadership at that level and plenty of volunteers are the reason. I meet with them each year and explain what it is I'm looking for at that level - fundamentals, fundmentals, fundamentals and fun!
Our middle school (7th & 8th) has had 2 coaches for most of my time as head varsity coach, but last year a former player came back as a volunteer assistant - did a great job and helped the other two focus a bit more coaching on specific positions.
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Post by saintrad on Jan 31, 2006 16:29:42 GMT -6
hey just remeber that your "disagreeiastants" are what keep you in a job... we should really move on from that term and look at the whole staff as one that workds TOGETHER to help the KIDS. Get the ego out of the way and watch the kids perform is what my old coach used to say. (having the best record in Oregon sure helped get that inot my skin)
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Post by coachjd on Jan 31, 2006 16:37:03 GMT -6
We have 2 coaches for 7th grade and 2 coaches for 8th grade. Each coach hasa specialty area for breakdown. OL/TE, QB, RB, WR
DL, ILB, OLB, DB
When they are done with indy time then they break up into 7th grade and 8th grade for group and team time.
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Post by saintrad on Jan 31, 2006 16:43:08 GMT -6
i like that idea jd...when i ran the middle school programs there was always myself and 2 others so breakdowns were a little easier
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Post by Coach Huey on Jan 31, 2006 17:06:18 GMT -6
we have 4 coaches at each of our middle schools (7th & 8th grade). the 2 teams do not work out at the same time so we have all 4 coaches for the 8th grade (practice before school & into 1st period 8th grade athletics) and all 4 coaches for the 7th grade (last period 7th grade athletics & after school practice). we run 2 teams for each grade. and, for the most part, they play games on separate nights so we get all 4 coaches for the majority of all games. we would rather have more coaches in the practice than the games so sometimes they may have to split up.
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Post by tye2021 on Jan 31, 2006 17:38:11 GMT -6
How are the school systems set up in you guys area? Do all the kids from your MS attend the same HS? In my home town (no longer there) they are thinking about starting MS football programs. Right now the youth football and HS football is all they have. The reason I'm asking is because our schools were zoned so depending on where you lived you could be attending a different school than some of the other guys you go to school with. Which means it would not make sense to have a MS run the same system as a certain HS.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 31, 2006 19:28:36 GMT -6
Vind brings up a most important point The effect Puberty has on MS football and the carry over to the Varsity level. Because of this, I am a firm believer in using MS to teach Pad Level, Tackling, Discipline, and Terminology to EVERY athlete. Each athlete should learn these skills. Everything else is really just for fun, because more often than not, your early puberty lineman never get above 5-7 in H.S
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