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Post by tog on Jan 9, 2006 14:45:24 GMT -6
how often does your state redo classifications and change up districts?
how do they do it?
how much movement does it cause?
we are up for a big one here in Texas
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Post by coachjd on Jan 9, 2006 14:49:19 GMT -6
Minnesota ~ every 2 years.
5A take the school with the largest enrollment and then every school with more than 50% of the largest schooles enrollment is 5A.
4A Same thing as 5A.
The rest of the schools then are evenly broken up by enrollment numbers into 3 classes. 3A, 2A and 1A
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Post by homeoftheo on Jan 9, 2006 14:56:05 GMT -6
ours is done by enrollment yearly. 256 teams make the playoffs...the 32 largest by enrollment are in D1..next 32 in D2 and so on untill all 8 Divisions are filled. However the enrollment is figured from the previous year and not the current year.
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Post by bigdaddyd on Jan 9, 2006 15:17:17 GMT -6
California has it broken down into 4 divisions; Open/Large/Medium/Small school.They're are other sections in the state, but I don't no if they are doing this format (in our section 32 teams are placed in the playoff bracket). I would believe they are b/c in 2006 Ca. will be experimenting with a state play-off system; something that has never been done...
what determines- what team goes where- is the population of the school. However in order to compete in the Open division, you must be a Large school that has accumulated enough power points and won a league title. As far as reclassification, I believe (and I can be wrong) it is done every 2 years.
Our league was just reclassified, from a 'B' league to a 'C' League. Reason for it b/c the total wining % of the teams in the league dropped significantly.
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Post by saintrad on Jan 9, 2006 17:33:35 GMT -6
still trying to figure out New Mexico's alignment policy..seem to realign every year or two
Oregon is going through a new classification alignment...going from 4 classes to 6 classes
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Post by coachcdr on Jan 9, 2006 18:05:47 GMT -6
Mississippi realignment is every 2 years
5A - Top 32 teams - 2 North Regions (8 each region)
2 South Regions (8 each region)
1A - Bottom 40 Teams - 2 North Regions (10 each reg)
2 South Regions (10 each reg)
4A, 3A, & 2A - divided up evenly......so the MSHAA says!
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Post by beatdown on Jan 9, 2006 18:41:20 GMT -6
Oklahoma has 8 classes 6A, 5A, 4A, 3A, 2A, A, B,and C. Classes 3A to 6A are comprised of 32 teams each. Class 2A has 64 teams, and Class A has all the 11 man teams that are to small for 2A (roughly 64 schools, give or take). Classes B&C are 8 man football. Each class is made up of districts of 8 teams, Class A is a little different though. And the top four teams in each district make the playoffs. The classes are done by enrollment every other year, and the districts are roughly geographic.
There is some talk that they might start combining some of the classes, but this is the way it currently is.
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Post by outlawzheadcoach on Jan 9, 2006 19:41:46 GMT -6
And some of those districts in class A realign every 2 years. For the most part most of the teams are the same in the district with a few switch outs every 2 years.
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Post by beatdown on Jan 9, 2006 21:21:10 GMT -6
Yeah, most district shift around some every 2 years. Right now the OSSAA is using a different method to decide what teams are in each district. A few years ago in 5A and below the districts were split up north and south, now they are alot different. And in clas 6A I'm not sure if there is a rhyme or reason to the districting (other than keeping Union and Jenks in different districts)
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Post by ocinaz on Jan 9, 2006 21:24:56 GMT -6
Arizona is a cluster right now. With all of the growth here, they weren't ready for it. So we have 7 classifications.1A,2A,3A,4A Divsion 1 and 2, 5A Division 1 and 2. They are going to have to figure something out for the next block which they will do the count in October. They are looking at exapnding the enrollment numbers to allow the same amount of schools to be in each classification. It's going to be tough. Lots of new schools.
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Post by wildcat on Jan 9, 2006 22:30:23 GMT -6
ours is done by enrollment yearly. 256 teams make the playoffs...the 32 largest by enrollment are in D1..next 32 in D2 and so on untill all 8 Divisions are filled. However the enrollment is figured from the previous year and not the current year. This is how we do it in Illinois. 256 teams make the playoffs. Basically, every team with at least a winning record gets in. There's always a few (2-3) 5-4 teams that don't get in, but, generally speaking, you have a winning record, you are in. The smallest 32 schools make up Class 1A, the next 32 make up Class 2A, etc, etc, all the way to 8A. Open enrollment schools (ie: private schools) have a 1.65 multiplier applied to their football enrollment. So, basically, most of the private schools get bumped up one higher class. After the classes are set, four 8-team "quads" are established based on geography. In other words, the other 7 teams in your quad are schools that are close by. There are 5 rounds to the Illinois playoffs. 1st Round - 32 teams 2nd Round - 16 teams Quarterfinals - 8 teams Semifinals - 4 teams Finals |
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Post by coachnorm on Jan 10, 2006 8:39:14 GMT -6
Kansas reclassifies every 2 years in football by taking each schools enrollment on sept. 20. They use grades 9-11 for football and lock teams in to 4 team districts for the next two years. Classifications break down like this 6A-top 32 schools, 5A- next 32, 4A- next 64, 3A- next 64, 2A- next 64, 8-man is split into 2 divisions with the largest half being division I and the rest being division II.
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Post by donaldduck on Jan 10, 2006 9:15:40 GMT -6
Tog, you ready for Feb 2?
In TX we have a pretty complex system...we have 1A-5A with 32 districts. There are 8-6 schools in each district. The top three make playoffs with the "big school" going division 1 and the "small schools" going Div 2. In theory, they don't want the top school in the 5A to have more than double the smallest school in 5A and so on down the classifications. Therefore, we have 8 state champs, not including private schools and 6 man ball. So with 1120 public schools, we have roughly 480 going to the playoffs. Way too watered down for most people.
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Post by pegleg on Jan 10, 2006 10:01:53 GMT -6
yeah ducky, right at 43% of schools get to go to the playoffs.
i don't want to go back to only 1 team gets in, but its starting to get crazy.
i really hope they don't add a 4th.
3 isn't a bad number, need to leave things alone.
of course in OK exactly 50% get in, top 4 in each district. 8 team districts.
Holla
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Post by tog on Jan 10, 2006 10:07:58 GMT -6
yeah
the 2nd will be interesting
should be a lot of movement with coaches this year
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Post by pegleg on Jan 10, 2006 10:14:03 GMT -6
always more movement in alignment years.
and usually right about the time the nubers come out.
so the next three weeks will be interesting.
Holla
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Post by spreadjet31 on Jan 10, 2006 10:49:39 GMT -6
The Maine Principals Association has turned it's back on numerous pleas from long-time coaches who think the state needs a realignment. The MPA's stance is that it will not consider realignment until there are 80 high schools with varsity football programs. There are currently only 67.
The breakdown is as follows:
Class A enrollment of 800 and up.
Class B enrollment of 500 to 799.
Class C enrollment of 499 and down.
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Post by coachbb on Jan 10, 2006 11:20:22 GMT -6
Tog, you ready for Feb 2? In TX we have a pretty complex system...we have 1A-5A with 32 districts. There are 8-6 schools in each district. The top three make playoffs with the "big school" going division 1 and the "small schools" going Div 2. In theory, they don't want the top school in the 5A to have more than double the smallest school in 5A and so on down the classifications. Therefore, we have 8 state champs, not including private schools and 6 man ball. So with 1120 public schools, we have roughly 480 going to the playoffs. Way too watered down for most people. Interesting thing is, sometimes there are four really good teams in a district. Sometimes its a struggle to get two decent teams. |
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