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Post by firebird on May 20, 2006 9:53:13 GMT -6
How many of you practice all offense one day and all defense the next? This would obviously be for smaller school coaches who have a number of players going both ways. I have always been a coach that believed on splitting each practice between offense and defense and working on both each day. For a change, we adopted the offense one day, defense the next for spring practice and I really like it. It really seemed that we could spend a lot more time paying attention to details and getting more teaching done. The real problem I have and that I just can't seem to get my brain around is that if we follow this format next year, we would only be preparing for the other teams offense for two days out of the week. Is this enough on the field time to devote and still play quality defense. I would really appreciate responses from coaches who have used this method and the pro's, con's and why they like or dislike it.
Thanks in advance for your comments!
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Post by phantom on May 20, 2006 10:42:43 GMT -6
It's not just small schools. We're a AAA school, don't platoon and practice as you described. Monday is game planning/scouting report, Tuesday is offense plus 10 minutes of tackling stations, Wednesday is defense plus "10 minutes" (HC is the OC) of rapid reps offense, Thursday is walk-through. I've been here for 18 years and have done it that way all along.
I love it. It allows us to really coach in depth. Another plus is that the defense doesn't get short-changed on practice time. I've heard of schools that split practices where the defense ended up with maybe 30 minutes of practice time. A plus for me is that doing defense on Wednesday gives me extra time for preparation.
Don't worry about having less practice time because you don't. Whether you split practices or have O and D days you still have the exact same amount of practice time.
The main negative is if a defensive player has to miss practice on defensive day.
I wouldn't do it any other way.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on May 20, 2006 10:50:43 GMT -6
We are kind of like that as well:
Monday, Watch film, walk-through/scouting report, condition
Tues- Defensive Day (we run 20 min. of Team O)
Wed. Offensive Day (20 min. of Team D)
Th. Pre Game
This is how I've always done it (wide range of school sizes)- I really like getting the time on D on Wednesday- because anything that did not go well Tuesday can get special attention on Wed.
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Post by blb on May 20, 2006 10:56:10 GMT -6
firebird, i don't do it that way, but a friend of mine who was successful at both a small and a big school did.
Monday and Wednesday were offensive days, Tuesday defense, Thursday Pre-Game/Review all. He was an offensive guy, but his theory behind two offensive days-one defensive day was offense required more polish and timing, defensive guys got work on scout team, and the offensive scout team wouldn't give them a very good look anyway.
His basic practice plan was something like:
30 mins. Stretch and Special teams
5 mins. Scouting Report (Monday), Team Take-off (Tuesday), Pursuit Drill (Wed.)
30 mins. Individual
25 mins. Group
25 mins. Team
5 mins. Conditioning
phantom, the guy I replaced here was accused of being ADD - "All Day Defense" (he was a middle guard in college).
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Post by phantom on May 20, 2006 11:14:27 GMT -6
firebird, i don't do it that way, but a friend of mine who was successful at both a small and a big school did. Monday and Wednesday were offensive days, Tuesday defense, Thursday Pre-Game/Review all. He was an offensive guy, but his theory behind two offensive days-one defensive day was offense required more polish and timing, defensive guys got work on scout team, and the offensive scout team wouldn't give them a very good look anyway. His basic practice plan was something like: 30 mins. Stretch and Special teams 5 mins. Scouting Report (Monday), Team Take-off (Tuesday), Pursuit Drill (Wed.) 30 mins. Individual 25 mins. Group 25 mins. Team 5 mins. Conditioning phantom, the guy I replaced here was accused of being ADD - "All Day Defense" (he was a middle guard in college). I joke about the boss but he's really good about defensive practice time. He's an ex-DC. He often does go over on the rapid reps but it doesn't come out of defensive time. If he goes over by ten minutes we just stay out ten minute longer. |
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Post by coachtroy54 on May 21, 2006 6:03:05 GMT -6
Coach, at the rec. level coaching 8-10 year olds I find that you need to coach Offense & Defense every day. What I mean is that Monday & Wednesday we concentrate on Offense more so then Defense but we don't run against air. The Defense is in on every thing that the Offense does. If the Offense is working on something new the Defense will go do tackling drills until the offense is done, or run up against another of our programs teams i.e. the second 8-10 or 9-11 team. Tuesday and Thursday we concentrate on Defense more so but the Offense is involved every step of the way same with the Offense id the Defense i working on something new the Offense will go do tackling drills or hit another team in the program. We also leave about 15-20 mins. open for special teams in every practice. Our Friday is for walk through and more reps. This has changed from year to year due to personal on the team.
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Post by firebird on May 21, 2006 9:52:00 GMT -6
Thanks to all for the comments. Phantom and Bluto, do you have a copy of a sample practice schedule I could have? I am really interested in ideas that both of you have and really think that I am going to structure our practices in this manner.
Thanks!
Another thing that we are going to do this year is to devote the first chunk of practice everyday to special teams. Sometimes special teams become an afterthought and get cheated out of time. The special teams in our conference are HORRIBLE and we feel that this would be a good way for us to gain an edge.
Thanks again.
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Post by coachdawhip on May 21, 2006 15:39:32 GMT -6
same as senatorblutarsky
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Post by redandwhite on May 22, 2006 12:57:47 GMT -6
For twenty years I have been at schools where all players learned both an offensive and defensive position. We have always practiced both O and D every day. I believe that it is important to rep both sides every day in order to put players in a position where they are confident and comfortable with the gameplan.
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