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Post by brophy on Feb 1, 2006 7:46:10 GMT -6
TWO PART QUESTION
1) How often do you socialize / meet with your staff in the OFF SEASON? We all see way too much of each other IN season, but in the off season, how much sharing information / having a drink / watching a game, do you do with your staff members? Is this important - why / why not?
2) How important is it for the prospective Head Coach to have "his guys" available during the interview process? (Having a staff "with you" before you get hired) - That you would be able to fill out the staff with your resources (fellow trusted coaches).....
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Post by coachcalande on Feb 1, 2006 13:34:05 GMT -6
2) always seem to get asked who im bringing in for a job...
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Post by edwardslv on Feb 1, 2006 13:35:43 GMT -6
Q #1: I believe teams are built in the off-season. In the weight room, obviously, but also that is where the bond is formed. That being said, I feel the staff relationships are the same way. We lift after school 3 days/week, and all the coaches are required to be there, period. Be wary of burnout, but you have to spend time together to build a good staff. Q 2: It depends on the school. Some are impressed if you have your staff ready to go, or at least part of it, and some are completely turned off. I'd say a big school w/ lots of turnover would want you to have some people lined up. That is unless they expect you to fill your staff with paraprofessionals, then, assuming we're talking about high school, I'd say be leery of that job. |
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Post by brophy on Feb 1, 2006 13:39:10 GMT -6
I'd at least think if you're taking a HC job....they'd WANT you to have 1 or 2 guys that know what you're running and can help you delegate.
this last staff i was with - I had a lot of headaches, but I admit I had about as much fun as I did when I was playing....
We routinely met for off-season meetings and watched the bowl games....splitted many tabs....
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Post by wpialoline on Feb 2, 2006 13:19:42 GMT -6
The staff I am on is very tight. It is group of guyz whose families hang out on a regular basis. We end up hanging out and talking about football probably 1 a week.
Myself and the other offensive coach exchange ideas every other day
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Post by knighter on Feb 2, 2006 13:49:58 GMT -6
I WISH I could get my disageeistants to show up for weights/plyo and agilities WITH me. They do not do it unless I am going to be gone. They see no need for all of us to be there. sends a bad message IMO. Even when I am gone sometimes they don't show or show up late. Nothing worse than having kids eager to get in the room and having no one there to open it up.
I want to bring a guy or 2 with me if I get a new job, but in some instances schools will not budge. I at least would like to interview the guys they have already and re-hire the ones I can work with. Some schools do not budge on this as well. I think a job was mine last spring IF I would have agreed to let all assistants stay on staff, but I want them to owe their job to me, not to former coach or AD who hired them, so I wouldn't budge either. Did not get the job needless to say.
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Post by howardp on Feb 3, 2006 11:44:03 GMT -6
Q1: I am a head coach and I feel it's extremely important to build personal relationships with your coaches and their families. My coaches are also my very good friends and we do a lot together in-season as well as out of season. We do things for "eachother" from the top down and in order to accomplish this you must buid relationships.
Q2: In every HC interview I have been involved in they have always asked about staff.
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Post by truebacha on Feb 6, 2006 12:34:16 GMT -6
THe staff I'm on is pretty good. The head coach and I talk alot about offensive idea's and what we need work on. We get together as a staff every once and awhile and we are pretty close. It is alot easier to coach with people you trust and they trust you my last staff I felt like I was not wanted or I should say treated like a coach and more like a manager. The staff I'm on now is great and the HC is great knows his stuff up and down. I've learned alot and feel like I know exactly what we want to get done. I think a close nit staff is good.
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Post by coachcalande on Feb 6, 2006 13:41:55 GMT -6
I recently sat down with my likely new boss, ...first we sat and just talked about the expectations and responsibilities that my position entailed...i would have liked to see that more formally ie, an outline...i just think that helps clear up miscommunications...if its in writing there is not a mistake that certain things were discussed...anyhow, on teh positive end of things, this was by far the most time ANY VARSITY HEAD COACH has spent sitting down to discuss things with me. It was a two way conversation as I had questions, I dont want to work for someone i dont respect (disorganized, use car salesman type with no real vision or direction...all talk, no action)...anyhow, i met with him a second time as i had asked for game film and the playbook that id be expected to introduce my kids to...he sat down again, for another 45 or so minutes and we went over the playbook and i asked questions. I told him that in 8 years as a jr high coach, this was the first time anyone had bothered to provide me with a written playbook that included the formations, terminology, blocking rules, passing info etc. sure, i have gotten some scratched out playsheets (no blocking ) or random terminology sheets....but never anything this organized and detailed...what does this mean to me? what it means is that while we may not do things 100% the same way, at least he has direction, puts effort and time into it and shows concern enough to sit down adn discuss these things. I have spent about 6 hours this weekend narrowing down the many plays and formations into the stuff id like to use with my 8th graders...i have questions typed up...one more time i will go and sit down and review this stuff to answer my questions...this is how a relationship starts really...with trust and time. i think if there are personality and age differences that prevent real bonds from developing , thats fine, but a working bond can develop regardless of a tight friendship. in some jobs i have had, i left after 3 years feeling as much a stranger as the day i walked in .
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Post by brophy on Feb 6, 2006 13:50:12 GMT -6
welcome to the 'real world', Steve.....congratulations...  Take the BLUE pill..... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2006 14:13:30 GMT -6
I've been fortunate to be a member of two pretty good staffs. More experienced coaches tell me not all are made this way! At my current school, only about half the coaches are school employees so that makes it a little harder to get together, but overall we're a pretty close staff.
Never been involved in a situation that would answer question 2. I would say in Illinois (maybe others know better) that bringing a whole staff would be hard to do based on school hiring policies, but an allowance might be made for a head coach to bring one or two chosen assistants.
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Post by ocinaz on Feb 7, 2006 19:28:11 GMT -6
We are a small rural town, most of our staff knows each other really well. The HC was in his first year of coaching when me and our line coach were seniors. I go hunting with the HC, the line coach and I are related. We do have a "newbie" on the staff, but we knew him from his other coaching jobs. We are pretty tight, lately we have been meeting every week just to shoot the breeze, spring ball is almost here!!
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Post by tcm57 on Feb 7, 2006 21:58:55 GMT -6
coachcalande:
In regards to your discussions with your new head coach, you mentioned that you were "narrowing down the many plays and formations into the stuff id like to use with my 8th graders..."
Having previous experience as a lower level head coach (8th grade, freshman, sophomore/JV) and presently being a varsity head coach, be sure to ASK your head coach which plays/formations he would like you to have his feeder system run. This will help in building the program. At each level certain things (O/D/Specials) should be added.
What has worked for us is that I detail in our playbooks through an installation guide what I want each level to have taught and installed. Just some food for thought.
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Post by coachcalande on Feb 8, 2006 4:10:44 GMT -6
and a good thought....that is exactly what we will do. Essentially, we have already done it to some extent, but id like to coninue to discuss it with the boss. I want to do what is best.
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