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Post by coachmoore42 on Mar 25, 2008 21:40:46 GMT -6
This is an off-shoot from another thread.
It has been mentioned, and occurs many places, parents causing players to miss practice for what we coaches would consider inexcusable reasons.
The example presented was a parent scheduling a vacation during pre-season practices, with these practices scheduled far in advance of the vacation. This is obviously not the kid's fault. Still it cannot be tolerated, so we usually suspend the kid for a game or two. But the blatantly inconsiderate action really calls for a more harsh action. But we don't do the more harsh one because it's not really the kid's fault.
Here's my out-of-the-box idea. How about we suspend the person who was in control?
If the parent claims that is wasn't the player's fault, it was their own (the parent), let's suspend the parent, for the first four games of the season.
Let's hear the reactions and decide if this would ever fly with the people in charge (AD/Principal/School Board).
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Post by ramsoc on Mar 25, 2008 22:23:27 GMT -6
While that would be fantastic, it would NEVER fly. And how would you suspend them? Keep them from games? So now you gotta have someone with a one sheet of this person with their picture so they can't get in... never gonna fly.
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Post by fatkicker on Mar 26, 2008 6:18:08 GMT -6
before we suspend parents from games......let's make them come to study hall every afternoon when little jimmy fails a test.......
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Post by touchdowng on Mar 26, 2008 8:22:33 GMT -6
coachmoore42
I like your idea - makes sense
it will never get support from the mucky mucks.
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Post by chaz111 on Mar 26, 2008 14:57:37 GMT -6
I send out a letter in December every year and tell them the 1st day of practice is August 1 and we will practice on Labor Day...I send about 4 letters home from December through June...each involves different info but always closes with practice starting and Labor Day. I send it home through the mail...even if I see the kid all day. I address it to the parents.
I can live with some JV stuff...those kids are new and parents are adjusting to HS sports.....but after 6 years the older kids have pretty much quit asking...a day or 2 at the beginning I'll huff and puff and punish...anymore and you sit the 1st game....after a week it's no more amnesty international.
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Post by trojan on Mar 26, 2008 16:28:44 GMT -6
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Post by trojan on Mar 26, 2008 16:49:27 GMT -6
I send out a letter in December every year and tell them the 1st day of practice is August 1 and we will practice on Labor Day...I send about 4 letters home from December through June...each involves different info but always closes with practice starting and Labor Day. I send it home through the mail...even if I see the kid all day. I address it to the parents. I can live with some JV stuff...those kids are new and parents are adjusting to HS sports.....but after 6 years the older kids have pretty much quit asking...a day or 2 at the beginning I'll huff and puff and punish...anymore and you sit the 1st game....after a week it's no more amnesty international. Sounds like the best idea. The schedule is the schedule, and it is set. Everyone has the choice to follow it or not (or their parents do). If you can't make it, you can't make it, but you don't get all the privileges of those who did. |
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Post by fatkicker on Mar 26, 2008 18:15:27 GMT -6
4th nine weeks started this week.....had a parent come in before spring break begging for help for her daughter.....is there anything she can do to pass.....
1st nine weeks about a 45.......2nd 9 weeks about a 60.......3rd nine weeks about a 65.....all of a sudden she's soooooooooo concerned about her daughter's grade.......
yeah....i can smell the concern......
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Post by coachmoore42 on Mar 26, 2008 19:31:11 GMT -6
Thanks for the responses.
I figured that would be the reaction. I agree that it would likely never fly because of the people in charge. They wouldn't want to back something so innovative...even though we're asked to "think outside of the box". I guess it should be "think outside of the box, but not too far outside".
All of that said, it will be an idea I keep to myself initially once I am hired as a HC. But it will be brought up at some point down the line...
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 26, 2008 19:49:10 GMT -6
coach moore...I DO think it could be an excellent point used in a preseason meeting. Explain the potential situation (when going over your missed practices policy)...You could work in something light and somewhat comical "Although in this case we would love to go ahead and 'sit the parent', it isn't really feasible, so the athlete will have to.....(and then explain your policy)
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Post by CVBears on Mar 26, 2008 23:06:35 GMT -6
to be honest, I don't think it is a matter of "backing." but, rather, a matter of enforcement. does the "get-back" coach also get the clipboard with the parents' pictures that they're supposed to kick out?
in reality, if the kid gets the punishment, I believe that is most fitting. a parent should be able to trust a 15, 16, 17, 18 year old kid to stay home, be responsible and do what they are supposed to (or at least stay with a friend/team mate that is responsible/has responsible parents). the kid is the one making the commitment to the team, they should be the one to pay the price for breaking the commitment.
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Post by carookie on Mar 27, 2008 0:18:43 GMT -6
in reality, if the kid gets the punishment, I believe that is most fitting. a parent should be able to trust a 15, 16, 17, 18 year old kid to stay home, be responsible and do what they are supposed to (or at least stay with a friend/team mate that is responsible/has responsible parents). the kid is the one making the commitment to the team, they should be the one to pay the price for breaking the commitment. Couldnt agree more coach. I can't count the number of fishing trips/family reunions I missed out on while in HS because of my responsibility to the team. While I agree that in a lot of cases the parents take the autonomy away from the player in situations such as this, I feel more inclined to teach responsibilty to the player, not mom and dad. |
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Post by coachmoore42 on Mar 27, 2008 0:22:08 GMT -6
CoachD, That's a creative way to bring some attention to the person being punished by the decision. If a coach couldn't implement the rule for whatever reason, this would be a great alternative. Rookie, in reality, if the kid gets the punishment, I believe that is most fitting. a parent should be able to trust a 15, 16, 17, 18 year old kid to stay home, be responsible and do what they are supposed to (or at least stay with a friend/team mate that is responsible/has responsible parents). the kid is the one making the commitment to the team, they should be the one to pay the price for breaking the commitment. I thought the same way that a kid should find someone on the team to stay with. But this past summer a kid was forced to go. His grandmother, who has been a trustworthy family friend for years, told us of his rants and anger over HAVING to go with his family. He begged us to talk to them, which we did to no avail. They even denied him from staying with this Grandmother (who had gotten him to workouts all summer). Luckily this was just missing two days of summer conditioning and one or two days of preseason practice. That said, the mother's opinion was that he should go because it's his family (the family has been separated and the mother doesn't care about this kid at all, but still has partial custody). She would've likely made him go at whatever time she wished. For this reason, we made sure he wouldn't be punished much at all. |
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Post by piquaindian on Mar 27, 2008 20:59:28 GMT -6
We're a youth program and it's up to the coach to control his sideline. We have board members walking around during the games to keep it under control but if a parent gets out of line and yells something crazy at a player or ref, it's a 15 yard penalty. If two of those fouls are given during one game, the coach is ejected. If the coach keeps his cool, the parents usually follow suit.
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