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Post by tentboy on Sept 20, 2007 11:10:05 GMT -6
I am a first year head coach, some assistants are hung on how the kids talk and act, for example (Yo, coach, howz it goin?) stuff like that. They think the kids need to be feared into submission.
These kids have always been respectful to me, each other, and play hard for me. They all in all are great kids with a lot of talent. I chalk some of this up to the age difference I am much closer in age to these kids then the assistants, I understand their lingo and culture. I also think the days of being a *rick to get the kids to play hard is a myth.
I would rather focus on the positives until I see otherwise. I am a strict coach that runs a pretty tight ship, but some of this stuff seems petty to me. How do you all feel?
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Post by superpower on Sept 20, 2007 11:56:24 GMT -6
Just my opinion here, but I think one of our jobs as a coach is to teach the players about respect, not just on the field but out in the real world as well. Those young men need to learn somewhere that there should be a difference between the way they address their friends and the way they address authority figures. It is obvious that they aren't learning it elsewhere, so you have a great opportunity to teach them something that will serve them very well for the remainder of their lives.
Just imagine how difficult it will be for them if no one ever explains why it is inappropriate to speak to an authority figure that way. They will really struggle to succeed in job interviews, college applications, etc. if no one takes the time to teach them how to do it the right way.
Coaching is an awesome responsibility and opportunity to make a real difference and teach life lessons.
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Post by coachf on Sept 20, 2007 12:40:04 GMT -6
I agree with you guys. The kids should speak in a more respectful manner. I don't think you need to be militaristic, but a simple "Yes, sir" is not asking too much.
BTW, I am pretty young too. I am not horribly offended by the lingo, but I do not want it in my program. I know that it is seen as very disrespectful for some of the older guys. I want to make sure my assistants are happy. It is nice to make the kids feel comfortable, but I want my staff to know that they come first.
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Post by ajreaper on Sept 20, 2007 13:11:55 GMT -6
"Yo coach how's it going"? That's it? LOL, petty silly fight to fight. If you end up working in an environment where that would be a big deal you 1) know it and act like it or 2) learn it as you grow and mature. At 16 they don't need to talk like a Wall Street banker and that phrase is hardly gutter talk. There has to be bigger fish to fry then this.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2007 14:51:20 GMT -6
Exactly, football in it's basic form may be a game, but in reality it is practice for a much bigger arena...life. The game of football models life very closely and it is why I hold the game so close. These kids have to be taught respect, and discipline b/c these 2 things in the real world are still king. The other thing is that without fear there is no discipline, so there must be some fear of consequences for not showing respect or the child won't know they've done wrong. Kids IMO like to know where they stand w/you and they will push the envelope until YOU put your foot down. IMO they must be shown who is the authority figure and that if you don't show respect to the authority figures then you will not get what you want which is playing time. Same in life, if you lack respect to your boss, I highly doubt you'll be getting that much anticipated raise or Christmas bonus, yet if you do show respect many more doors and avenues will be opened up for you.
That being said, I don't think you have to beat them into submission either. I think it's a give-take relationship all the way. I do beleive though, that kids crave discipline and structure and they want to know where they stand w/you at all times. They don't like to guess or have to figure things out either, so it's better just to be up front w/the discipline and respect issue IMO.
I think you're dead on by focusing on the positives also, but respect always has to be there. When I first started coaching, I was so negative and I couldn't figure out why my players just didn't respond, and one day I heard it on a motivational tape a friend of mine gave me, it said: "Positvie words breed postivie actions and thinking, nothing good comes from being negative". I've never forgotten that and I've had to really work at being positive and upbeat ALL the time and it has paid off. That being said, my players know they address all coaches as "sir" and they say "yes sir" and "no sir" while on my practice field. I do not allow cursing at my practices either, as I think it is also a a lack of respect and will not be tolerated. All of the above receives a punishment, and if repeated enough can lead to loss of playing time and removal from the team. I don't deviate from this one bit b/c if you do, they'll overrun you in a heartbeat. My players play hard and I've had several complements from other coaches on both our discipline and our sportsmanship over the past several years. I know it sounds corny, but that means as much to me as winning the games b/c I'm winning in helping these kids grow up.
Duece
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