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Post by RENO6 on Jul 8, 2014 8:35:10 GMT -6
What are your consequences for summer Weight Days if a player/s do not make the amount of days expected of them?
We ask our Juniors & Seniors to get 8 weeks (a week consists of at least 3 days within a week) Sophomores 7 weeks, Freshmen 6 weeks.
We usually have them run/ lift during during indy sessions during 2 - a days, but I am looking to do something different.
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!!
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Post by fantom on Jul 8, 2014 8:57:13 GMT -6
What are your consequences for summer Weight Days if a player/s do not make the amount of days expected of them? We ask our Juniors & Seniors to get 8 weeks (a week consists of at least 3 days within a week) Sophomores 7 weeks, Freshmen 6 weeks. We usually have them run/ lift during during indy sessions during 2 - a days, but I am looking to do something different. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!! I don't know what your school calendar looks like but here we don't even have eight weeks between the end of school and the beginning of official practice (and one of those weeks is a dead period). It appears that you're requiring your players to be at virtually every workout. do you have provisions for excused absences for things like family vacations? It's hard for me to say anything until I know what your situation is like.
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Post by coach2013 on Jul 8, 2014 8:58:27 GMT -6
I would completely change the approach to :
WHAT INCENTIVES AND REWARDS DO YOU PROVIDE FOR % WORKOUTS ATTENDED, PROGRESS AND PERFORMANCE?
The natural consequences for missing includes playing time, depth chart, captain status, trust.
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Post by groundchuck on Jul 8, 2014 9:08:53 GMT -6
We give incentives and rewards.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 8, 2014 9:09:56 GMT -6
I agree with coach2013 You will truly have something going when the kids DESIRE to be there and refuse to miss, as opposed to HAVE to be there and don't want to get punished.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Jul 8, 2014 10:49:47 GMT -6
I understand your thinking in wanting to hold players accountable. Over the years, I think I put far too much thought into figuring out how to deal with those players. When I did try something, it ended up being a waste of time. Often, the real-life "consequences" end up looking like this:
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Post by keysersoze on Jul 8, 2014 11:30:07 GMT -6
We figure out how many workouts we are going to hold and then give the kids one week's worth that they can miss and still be in good graces. That means if we offer 15 workouts (three a week) we only require 12. We also have a dead week and other time off so a kid can do other sports as well as family stuff.
If a kid doesn't make the 12 workouts, he has to do a conditioning test prior to practices. If he fails that, then he has extra conditioning throughout doubles.
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Post by RENO6 on Jul 8, 2014 11:45:21 GMT -6
We have incentives and rewards already in place for daily, end of each week, & overall leaders.
I do feel there should be a consequence as well.
Keysersoze: What is your conditioning test?
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Post by coachdubyah on Jul 8, 2014 11:56:44 GMT -6
I understand your thinking in wanting to hold players accountable. Over the years, I think I put far too much thought into figuring out how to deal with those players. When I did try something, it ended up being a waste of time. Often, the real-life "consequences" end up looking like this: You can try all the "incentives" and "consequences" you want. I have learned at my current school that this is always the best consequence/incentive. I used to be all about creating ways to get more involvement i.e. t-shirts, Name on Wall, etc... You don't show up, you don't play. End of discussion. Now someone is going to ask me "how do you deal with special situations such as kid leaving to go stay with Uncle Bill for the summer". Those kids don't play. It is what it is. Even if the kid is decent, you just can't reason with it. Those kids will burn you. Most of all, kids that show up everyday will notice the special treatment and it WILL discourage them. Then as a coach, you screwed both ways. We just started implementing this in our second season and should have done it from the get go...Lesson Learned!
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Post by coachb5806 on Jul 8, 2014 12:08:28 GMT -6
Reno, this is a problem that I have spent a lot of time combating over the years and here is what I have implemented. First, our offseason begins as soon as our season ends. We bring our guys in at 6:45 am every day before school. We try to get 3 days a week on the weights and two days a week on footwork and agility. It can be hard to do, as we are a small school and almost all of our guys play multiple sports, hence why we go mornings before school. Like coach2013 said, it is all about incentives a rewards. We use those to create a culture of wanting to work and get better every single day. We take attendance at every single workout/practice. Our current attendance records go back to the Monday before Thanksgiving. We use these solely as rewards, not punishments. For example, we have a kid Trevor, he is a Jr and the only kid that has not missed a single workout. He is sitting at 113 workouts as of now, (He also plays baseball and throws in track). Trevor is number one for everything.
1. We buy a few new helmets and shoulder pads every year. Equipment is issued in order of workouts attended. Seniority means nothing here! You get things in the order you have EARNED them. Our seniors know that if they want to go first, they have to start earning it as soon as their Jr year ends. We have a kid who has not played before that will be a senior who has committed to our program and will be near the top of the list.
2. We are currently constructing new locker room. It will have 24 custom, wooden sit down lockers. It will also have overflow bench seating. The top 24 workers get to choose which of the new lockers will be theirs, the others get the overflow benches.
3. We traveled to a team camp a few weeks ago in two school suburbans. Kids were fighting over who got to ride in which suburban. I was driving one and our principal was driving the other, some kids did not wnat to ride with her. I told them if they could not figure it out I was going to get out the attendance log and whoever had put in more would pick where they rode. We use that attendance log to reward wherever possible!
4. We do a Night of Champions lifting competition at the end of each July. We also max in December and May. Players can reach our 1,000 lb club (bench, squat, hang clean, deadlift) at any of these max windows. At the night of champions kids get to pick one lift to compete in (they max the others before the event that afternoon) and we give a trophy to the heaviest lifter in each class and the best lb for lb lift (encourages everyone to work, regardless of size and overall, top end strength) At the end of the year football banquet, the last award we give out is the 1,000 lb club trophies and shirts for those who made it. This is after all district, all state, all stars, etc. We build it up as the biggest award a player can earn because it is a reflection of the commitment and work ethic that we value above all else. We give out very nice awards for this (google sculpture alley)
This is some of what we do to motivate our guys. I am going into my 3rd year as the HC at this school. Our first year we went 4-6, no playoffs. Last year we went 7-5, were seeded 5th, and lost in the quarterfinals to the eventual state champ 22-6. Our improvement was primarily due to our players commitment to our off season program. We are a wing t team that had a 15oo yd tb, 1100 wb, and a 700 fb with 4 sophomores and a junior on our offensive line. We were tough, strong and determined because our guys learned and prepared for that every single day.
We have 15 starters back from that team and every single one has lived in the weight room and committed, regardless of what else they have going on. They are all over 80 workouts.
Now, sometimes you have to be creative. We have a Sr to be, the aforementioned 1,100 yd rusher, who was not showing up and working. I had tried everything I could think of. I sat him down and asked him what it was going to take. He said to let him wear a visor (I haven't allowed our boys to wear them). I agreed, we typed up a contract (Agreement was he would have perfect attendance from that point on) and it is sitting above my desk. He has not missed since mid January when we made the agreement. Of course, I will not only allow him to wear a visor, so if he succeeds, and he is 3 weeks from fulfilling the contract, he will have unlocked that privilege for all players, adding to their respect for him and their view of him as a leader.
Hope some of this helps. This is one area of coaching that I think is hugely overlooked and sooooooo important.
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Post by coachdubyah on Jul 8, 2014 12:13:30 GMT -6
Reno, this is a problem that I have spent a lot of time combating over the years and here is what I have implemented. First, our offseason begins as soon as our season ends. We bring our guys in at 6:45 am every day before school. We try to get 3 days a week on the weights and two days a week on footwork and agility. It can be hard to do, as we are a small school and almost all of our guys play multiple sports, hence why we go mornings before school. Like coach2013 said, it is all about incentives a rewards. We use those to create a culture of wanting to work and get better every single day. We take attendance at every single workout/practice. Our current attendance records go back to the Monday before Thanksgiving. We use these solely as rewards, not punishments. For example, we have a kid Trevor, he is a Jr and the only kid that has not missed a single workout. He is sitting at 113 workouts as of now, (He also plays baseball and throws in track). Trevor is number one for everything. 1. We buy a few new helmets and shoulder pads every year. Equipment is issued in order of workouts attended. Seniority means nothing here! You get things in the order you have EARNED them. Our seniors know that if they want to go first, they have to start earning it as soon as their Jr year ends. We have a kid who has not played before that will be a senior who has committed to our program and will be near the top of the list. 2. We are currently constructing new locker room. It will have 24 custom, wooden sit down lockers. It will also have overflow bench seating. The top 24 workers get to choose which of the new lockers will be theirs, the others get the overflow benches. 3. We traveled to a team camp a few weeks ago in two school suburbans. Kids were fighting over who got to ride in which suburban. I was driving one and our principal was driving the other, some kids did not wnat to ride with her. I told them if they could not figure it out I was going to get out the attendance log and whoever had put in more would pick where they rode. We use that attendance log to reward wherever possible! 4. We do a Night of Champions lifting competition at the end of each July. We also max in December and May. Players can reach our 1,000 lb club (bench, squat, hang clean, deadlift) at any of these max windows. At the night of champions kids get to pick one lift to compete in (they max the others before the event that afternoon) and we give a trophy to the heaviest lifter in each class and the best lb for lb lift (encourages everyone to work, regardless of size and overall, top end strength) At the end of the year football banquet, the last award we give out is the 1,000 lb club trophies and shirts for those who made it. This is after all district, all state, all stars, etc. We build it up as the biggest award a player can earn because it is a reflection of the commitment and work ethic that we value above all else. We give out very nice awards for this (google sculpture alley) This is some of what we do to motivate our guys. I am going into my 3rd year as the HC at this school. Our first year we went 4-6, no playoffs. Last year we went 7-5, were seeded 5th, and lost in the quarterfinals to the eventual state champ 22-6. Our improvement was primarily due to our players commitment to our off season program. We are a wing t team that had a 15oo yd tb, 1100 wb, and a 700 fb with 4 sophomores and a junior on our offensive line. We were tough, strong and determined because our guys learned and prepared for that every single day. We have 15 starters back from that team and every single one has lived in the weight room and committed, regardless of what else they have going on. They are all over 80 workouts. Now, sometimes you have to be creative. We have a Sr to be, the aforementioned 1,100 yd rusher, who was not showing up and working. I had tried everything I could think of. I sat him down and asked him what it was going to take. He said to let him wear a visor (I haven't allowed our boys to wear them). I agreed, we typed up a contract (Agreement was he would have perfect attendance from that point on) and it is sitting above my desk. He has not missed since mid January when we made the agreement. Of course, I will not only allow him to wear a visor, so if he succeeds, and he is 3 weeks from fulfilling the contract, he will have unlocked that privilege for all players, adding to their respect for him and their view of him as a leader. Hope some of this helps. This is one area of coaching that I think is hugely overlooked and sooooooo important. Aside from what I wrote. This is great. I like the idea of the Night of Champions in July. Great stuff!!! If I am still at this same school next year, this/these ideas will be stolen.
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Post by fantom on Jul 8, 2014 12:16:31 GMT -6
I understand your thinking in wanting to hold players accountable. Over the years, I think I put far too much thought into figuring out how to deal with those players. When I did try something, it ended up being a waste of time. Often, the real-life "consequences" end up looking like this: You can try all the "incentives" and "consequences" you want. I have learned at my current school that this is always the best consequence/incentive. I used to be all about creating ways to get more involvement i.e. t-shirts, Name on Wall, etc... You don't show up, you don't play. End of discussion. Now someone is going to ask me "how do you deal with special situations such as kid leaving to go stay with Uncle Bill for the summer". Those kids don't play. It is what it is. Even if the kid is decent, you just can't reason with it. Those kids will burn you. Most of all, kids that show up everyday will notice the special treatment and it WILL discourage them. Then as a coach, you screwed both ways. We just started implementing this in our second season and should have done it from the get go...Lesson Learned! Sorry, I'm not buying it. Special circumstances are just that-special. If Mom and Dad are separated and this is his only chance to spend time with a parent I'm not benching him because he didn't make X number of workouts. In fact I'm not benching anybody for missing X amount of workouts. He may have to take a fitness test and he'll start at the bottom of the depth chart but after that best players play. Now, before he leaves the kid will understand that wherever he is it's in his best interest to find a way to work out but we're not forgetting about him because of something that's beyond his control.
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Post by coachb5806 on Jul 8, 2014 12:33:53 GMT -6
Coach dubyah, We also use our Night of Champions as a fundraiser. Kids collect lb for lb pledges or flat donations. My 1st year we made $1,750 in about 3 hours and last year raised over $2,300. Our goal this year is to break $3,000. We have between 25 to 30 kids lift. Last year one kid got his mom's boss to pledge $1 per lb. He hang cleaned 250. Pretty easy fundraiser really. Only complaint I have is that they then have to go collect the money, which creates an administrative task that parallels with 2-a-days.
Also, our middle school is across the street from our high school. We allow our guys to start lifting at the conclusion of their 8th grade season of football. We have 4 freshman to be with over 80 workouts that are pretty high on our rewards list. When we get them young and teach them the right way early, they generally stay on that path.
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Post by coachmoore42 on Jul 8, 2014 12:35:10 GMT -6
We're middle school, but we have similar rewards/consequences to some of you guys. There are no official consequences, as it can't be required, but all of the unofficial ones are real (lesser ability, less trust, etc.) As for rewards, we focus on one main one, picking your number. They have to make a certain number/percentage of workouts to get this reward. Usually that's all of the workouts minus two weeks of misses. This year, that is 16 of 20. We have extra credit opportunites in our 7-on-7s (double extra credit for OLmen who will snap for us ). The other thing, which some see as a reward (we see it as helping to cut down the massive amount of time it takes to do everyone at once), is that they get their equipment first. Everyone else has to survive two days of conditioning before they get anything (we got tired of taking up equipment from all of the quitters).
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Post by coach2013 on Jul 8, 2014 13:22:45 GMT -6
We always tell the guys who "go to Florida for the summer" that they have loads of gyms down there, they should text us photos of themselves lifting at said gym. If they are too poor to afford a gym, wed better see photos of sprinting on the beach or workouts with a local high school team. Where there is a will, there is a way. "Athletes train, loafers complain"
And when Tommys Mommy calls me and says "What can little Tommy do to earn more playing time?" the answer is like many other coaches response "he should have already been doing it all off season"
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Post by coachdubyah on Jul 8, 2014 14:07:58 GMT -6
You can try all the "incentives" and "consequences" you want. I have learned at my current school that this is always the best consequence/incentive. I used to be all about creating ways to get more involvement i.e. t-shirts, Name on Wall, etc... You don't show up, you don't play. End of discussion. Now someone is going to ask me "how do you deal with special situations such as kid leaving to go stay with Uncle Bill for the summer". Those kids don't play. It is what it is. Even if the kid is decent, you just can't reason with it. Those kids will burn you. Most of all, kids that show up everyday will notice the special treatment and it WILL discourage them. Then as a coach, you screwed both ways. We just started implementing this in our second season and should have done it from the get go...Lesson Learned! Sorry, I'm not buying it. Special circumstances are just that-special. If Mom and Dad are separated and this is his only chance to spend time with a parent I'm not benching him because he didn't make X number of workouts. In fact I'm not benching anybody for missing X amount of workouts. He may have to take a fitness test and he'll start at the bottom of the depth chart but after that best players play. Now, before he leaves the kid will understand that wherever he is it's in his best interest to find a way to work out but we're not forgetting about him because of something that's beyond his control. I probably came off a bit harsh (sensitive subject for me), so I'll elaborate. Notice I said, "Uncle Bill". I cannot tell you how many excuses I/we have heard about staying with an Uncle, a Grandma, a Brother, a Sister etc... for 2 1/2 MONTHS!!! We have kids that go on Church trips for a week, "leadership conferences" (State thing), and vacations. But, those kids let us at least a week ahead of time. Those kids are at workouts. If it's a Momma and Daddy thing, that can be resolved a little. But, as you stated in the last part of your post, they will start at the bottom of the depth chart. To me that is benching. They are not starting so that's the consequence. They don't get kicked off the team. We don't workout 5 days a week all summer. Our weeks are 4 day weeks and sometimes 3 days. There is built in time for vacations (4th of July Week and Last Week of July). The players and parents get a calendar with everything on it. It is just high school football, so there is time to "be a kid". But, if they do not come to workouts/7 on 7 they are absent and their spot gets taken. Again, it's not a popular approach but, it's burned me/us in the past. If they're the type of kid that has to go away for the summer and they actually do workout and come back in shape, they will probably play but it will not be without penalty. Their playing time will suffer. But, those are few and far between. Now, I learned something after I posted that. The "Night of Champions" in July is an awesome idea. I am going to steal it. We curretnly do T-shirts but, with the culture we deal with it's been a moderate success. I just think you have to be careful of this issue. I have learned it's a very delicate issue and you need clear and cut expectations of the players in the Summer. Maybe I am wrong, but your school culture can dictate this. Football is not THE most important sport at our school (history of losing/appathy/entitlement/Seniors Start). We have been here going on our 3rd season (5-5 year one, 1-9 year 2). We have carried this philosophy into this summer and our participation and attendance has been the best this summer. We still have a few that are testing us, but they will get their check of reality in August.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 14:18:07 GMT -6
coachb5806, great stuff! Thank you for sharing that! So what other rewards do people use for the "carrot" portion of the "carrot and stick" to get kids to want to show up?
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Post by k on Jul 8, 2014 15:37:56 GMT -6
We can't have consequences other than natural consequences in my state. Very clearly against the rules.
I'm a huge fan of rewards as a couple other coaches have said. Helmet stickers/first choice in gear/first choice in lockers/T-shirts/when you get your helmet emblem (and the benefits that come with that).
If it was my call I'd have a magnetic list on the coaches office windows facing out that showed exactly how many points each player has, in order. Points reset after our last game. Get points for off season workouts, fundraising, volunteer work, academic success, handed in academic report forms, attendance in season, % gains in lifts / conditioning test, etc. Get to X points you get a free T-Shirt, get to Y points and you get free shorts, every Z points and you get a helmet sticker. Other things get distributed based on the number of points. Everyone starts at 0 points and you can't lose points so there is no "punishment" just "rewards". Who gets the brand new helmets? Who gets first choice on jerseys? Who has duties to dress the field for games, fill water pre-practice/game, pull the dummies out every practice, roll the split marker up, cover and uncover the track with the plastic carpets, drive the sled out from and back to where we store it, who gets to be underclass game captains, etc... Well the answer is who isn't exempt from these jobs? Determine who is exempt by being in the top ~75% of the team. When voting for captains the only piece of information you give them is the number of points earned cumulatively.
Sam Smith - 1021 Freddy Freeman - 983 Robby Robertson - 973 Tom Thomson - 899 etc
Two way starter doesn't play other sports yet doesn't show up all Winter/Spring/Summer but an upcoming freshman busts his butt over the summer? Guess which one gets a locker in the football room and never has to do waters and guess who is bunking it in Gen-Pop and setting up yardage markers for the freshman game?
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Post by macdiiddy on Jul 8, 2014 20:10:03 GMT -6
We are not allowed to have "mandatory" practices during the summer, so its hard to pull your weight around and tell the kids they MUST be there.
With that being said, we are normally around 90 percent turnout rate. We do a good job in the offseason with our leadership programs and instilling in the upper classmen that they will only be as successful as the work they put in. And we need the young kids there because every year a sophomore see's the field in one way or the other. It might be a starter/rotator/special teams, get them working now so they don't cost you your senior season.
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Post by coach2013 on Jul 9, 2014 3:19:47 GMT -6
Our helmet sticker ceremony where we invite the parents to watch us decorate helmets in the preseason sends the point home.
We load up the kids helmets with stickers for attendance and performance in the weight room. Nothing like seeing a kid and parent wait for an award and realize, IT WASNT EARNED, ITS NOT HAPPENING. and the helmet remains plain and undecorated. Meanwhile the kids who attended workouts are getting certain stickers for % attended, certain stickers for mile stones and standards reached and certain stickers for challenges met and status earned. You could be 5th string and have more stickers than an all stater if you out work him.
Kids always appreciate swag and helmet stickers are indeed swag.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 13:58:35 GMT -6
Our helmet sticker ceremony where we invite the parents to watch us decorate helmets in the preseason sends the point home. We load up the kids helmets with stickers for attendance and performance in the weight room. Nothing like seeing a kid and parent wait for an award and realize, IT WASNT EARNED, ITS NOT HAPPENING. and the helmet remains plain and undecorated. Meanwhile the kids who attended workouts are getting certain stickers for % attended, certain stickers for mile stones and standards reached and certain stickers for challenges met and status earned. You could be 5th string and have more stickers than an all stater if you out work him. Kids always appreciate swag and helmet stickers are indeed swag. The helmet sticker ceremony is great stuff! I really like the idea of all the different "awards" kids can win. Stickers would be a cheap reward, too, and cheap is always good.
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Post by rsmith627 on Jul 9, 2014 14:12:55 GMT -6
We don't have consequences. Here in Utah, this stuff isn't mandatory. Summer is family time and vacation time etc. Kids understand the consequences of not being there, and know if they fall behind they won't play. We have pretty good participation without consequences. Our kids know hard work is necessary, and are willing to put it in. Even the ones who leave for vacation log what they do while they're gone.
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Post by coach2013 on Jul 9, 2014 14:35:21 GMT -6
Our helmet sticker ceremony where we invite the parents to watch us decorate helmets in the preseason sends the point home. We load up the kids helmets with stickers for attendance and performance in the weight room. Nothing like seeing a kid and parent wait for an award and realize, IT WASNT EARNED, ITS NOT HAPPENING. and the helmet remains plain and undecorated. Meanwhile the kids who attended workouts are getting certain stickers for % attended, certain stickers for mile stones and standards reached and certain stickers for challenges met and status earned. You could be 5th string and have more stickers than an all stater if you out work him. Kids always appreciate swag and helmet stickers are indeed swag. The helmet sticker ceremony is great stuff! I really like the idea of all the different "awards" kids can win. Stickers would be a cheap reward, too, and cheap is always good. Whats great too is when you need a gopher.... or water boy or someone to drag some stuff from the shed- get a kid that is missing stickers.
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Post by fantom on Jul 9, 2014 14:51:53 GMT -6
We have a set of criteria that we have in order for players to earn their helmet decal. I don't remember them specifically but they have to get 4 out of 6. They include Honor Roll, attendance (certain % of workouts), then some physical tests- a mix of lifts and runs- that are somewhat challenging but aren't very hard for guys who have been working out. It works out that everybody who's been there earns his decal. Sometimes a kid who hasn't worked as hard as we'd have liked does too but so it goes. The guys who don't earn one? We'll be glad to explain.
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Post by irishdog on Jul 9, 2014 15:58:03 GMT -6
Our state prohibits mandatory summer workouts. I just got hired as the HC at a private school. Lower numbers than what I'm used to, but being hired late didn't help. It is what it is. I did tell the ones showing up they would be rewarded for their attendance. I also use helmet stickers. A kid can get up to 8 stickers (8 weeks). My strength coach keeps tabs on each kid. Seniors who earn 7 or 8 stickers are eligible to become captains. At that point they are given a list of criteria which makes them eligible to become a captain (which includes the summer program). If they meet 90% of the criteria (9 out of 10) they can be nominated by their team mates.
Next year I'm certain we'll have more kids participate, and they and their parents will know what the expectations are. If it is important to them, and if it is their goal to be a leader, they will be there.
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Post by jsk002 on Jul 10, 2014 6:40:19 GMT -6
I agree with coach2013 You will truly have something going when the kids DESIRE to be there and refuse to miss, as opposed to HAVE to be there and don't want to get punished. Guys - this is what it is all about. You need to find a way to develop a culture where your athletes want to lift because they understand the value it brings and that it allows them the opportunity to win. This has to be the ultimate goal. I coach at a small private school 40 - 45 kids total in the program. I can't run kids off because they haven't bought in yet. I can't punish a kid because he has to live with another parent during the summer. I can't make a big deal if a kid misses a week because his family is on vacation. I will put anyone who blows us off at the bottom of the depth chart and force them to work their way up. I can promise anyone who buys in, shows up and works hard an opportunity to play. It took a lot of time to get there - and incentives for lifting and rallying around events are great - but those should be a means to getting kids to a point where they understand and value the importance of lifting and they want to be there.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Jul 10, 2014 7:55:18 GMT -6
I've said it in other posts, but my kids acted like 3rd grade kids getting in line for a snack when it came to helmet stickers.
I never considered pre-season stickers. I can imagine a first week opponent looking at you like, 'did they play someone already?' Lol. I like it.
I also think it is important to point out that there is a difference between punishment and consequences (which was the word used in the OP).
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Post by RENO6 on Jul 10, 2014 20:39:43 GMT -6
What are your consequences for summer Weight Days if a player/s do not make the amount of days expected of them? We ask our Juniors & Seniors to get 8 weeks (a week consists of at least 3 days within a week) Sophomores 7 weeks, Freshmen 6 weeks. We usually have them run/ lift during during indy sessions during 2 - a days, but I am looking to do something different. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!! I don't know what your school calendar looks like but here we don't even have eight weeks between the end of school and the beginning of official practice (and one of those weeks is a dead period). It appears that you're requiring your players to be at virtually every workout. do you have provisions for excused absences for things like family vacations? It's hard for me to say anything until I know what your situation is like. We have 10 weeks total with a dead week. So, the kids have dead week off and any week off they want if they're seniors&juniors, sophomores 2weeks, and freshmen 3 weeks. We ask our juniors and senior to come to 24 days, sophomores 21 days, and freshmen 18 days. It's just we want them to be within the weeks. We used to give them days total but then they would make them all up at the end of the summer by doubling up days, etc. Like I said, we have incentives and rewards already in place for daily, end of each week, & overall leaders. I agree that playing time is the best way to set the tone, completely!! For those who say they can not have consequences, isn't playing time a consequence? Anyway, it's my fault for not specifying. Let me restate the question; for those who use consequences, what else do you use besides playing time as a consequence for not making given expectations.
Thank You.
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Post by coach2013 on Jul 11, 2014 2:52:34 GMT -6
Helmet stickers are somewhat similar to - uh, say military medals and bars/stripes (no disrespect meant to my military brothers who pay a far greater price to earn those medals and bars/stripes) - I just mean that we decorate our guys that go all out to make the program go.
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Post by freezeoption on Jul 11, 2014 10:32:42 GMT -6
I am a helmet sticker guy also, now am I not going to play a guy that doesn't have a helmet sticker, no, I don't have enough bodies to do that, but as we get ready to start our first season of hs football, the ones that have helmet stickers will stick out, the ones that don't will stick out. when my jr high guys have more stickers than my hs players it will stick out, my younger guys get it, I wish I could sit the ones that don't have all the stickers, I don't think I will have that luxury this year,
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