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Post by fantom on May 13, 2014 8:35:45 GMT -6
I've kind of think disciplining your players is (like most things in life) situational. One kid requires a discussion w/ the old "I'm really disappointed" Richie Cunningham approach, another requires conditioning and then some just suffer from a medical condition I call "numb nuts" . These guys usually just get cut loose. I think in our position, we have to be able to "read kids" and their behavior as well as we judge talent. To me, it's kind of the same thing. One plus in helping out is that it helps you to identify those "numb nuts" before they have a chance to hurt your program.
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Post by s73 on May 13, 2014 9:18:23 GMT -6
I've kind of think disciplining your players is (like most things in life) situational. One kid requires a discussion w/ the old "I'm really disappointed" Richie Cunningham approach, another requires conditioning and then some just suffer from a medical condition I call "numb nuts" . These guys usually just get cut loose. I think in our position, we have to be able to "read kids" and their behavior as well as we judge talent. To me, it's kind of the same thing. One plus in helping out is that it helps you to identify those "numb nuts" before they have a chance to hurt your program. Absolutely agree 100%. I think another point not being made in this thread is that working w/ teachers is a 2 way street. I mean, if Mrs. Teacher wants your help w/ Johnny Football in her classroom and you blow her off, don't be surprised if it doesn't come back to bite you down the line. I know I've traditionally been wiling to help w/ FB kids being strokes in the classroom. As a result, I usually get a heads up when a kid is struggling academically and can be in danger of losing eligibility, etc. I just think if we treat the HS like an island, we may get awfully lonely. JMO.
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Post by beebe on May 13, 2014 10:17:46 GMT -6
My question was this- if it is a school rule, then it should be enforced by the school, not the football coach. If the school is that lax on enforcing rules, your battle is going to be more than uphill. Well maybe, but I DO have control over my team.....the rest of the school, is well, just that....I expect my team to be leaders of the school, so therefore, if they do the right thing the others might follow.....again my battle is with my players, not the school....my players will do what is expected and the administration will be thankful....two birds one stone. It may just be a small thing, wear your ID, but it is the start of being disciplined, at least in my view.
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Post by coachwilcox on May 13, 2014 12:11:04 GMT -6
My question was this- if it is a school rule, then it should be enforced by the school, not the football coach. If the school is that lax on enforcing rules, your battle is going to be more than uphill. Well maybe, but I DO have control over my team.....the rest of the school, is well, just that....I expect my team to be leaders of the school, so therefore, if they do the right thing the others might follow.....again my battle is with my players, not the school....my players will do what is expected and the administration will be thankful....two birds one stone. It may just be a small thing, wear your ID, but it is the start of being disciplined, at least in my view. Very well put. I tell my kids that they are going to be held to a higher standard. If you aren't setting a good example, then you are wrong. Just do right and their will never be any problems. You put yourself in a situation where you can be construed as "wrong", then you take that risk of being disciplined.
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Post by newhope on May 15, 2014 11:15:39 GMT -6
Before school starts I tell team we expect them to attend (on time), behave, study, learn, and achieve. Just like they do for Football. Prepare for tests like they do for games. If I hear of a problem from a teacher, I will address it with player, including caveat that if problem persists, there will be consequences (PIE). We try to run our program in such a way that kids learn habits that can carry over into classroom. At risk of breaking my arm patting myself on the back, it must work because at most of places I've been HC have had teachers and-or administrators comment on improved behavior of Football players in school. Pretty much this. If I care about them as more than football players, then I care about what goes on in the classroom. I want to know if they are not doing what they are supposed to be doing. Do I ever get the "he didn't have a pencil" crap....yes, I do. I tell him I don't want to hear it again, and he has a pencil. Usually all they need is for me to know and to say something to them. I only punish when the behavior is extreme (which usually means they have seen an administrator) or when it is repeated.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 12:39:19 GMT -6
Even as an assistant, I get this sometimes. If it's something that's very minor, I'll usually say to the teacher, "Okay, I'll talk to him" and then sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. If it's something I feel I actually need to talk to the kid about I will.
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