coachf
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Post by coachf on Jan 16, 2007 10:39:22 GMT -6
sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs06/news/story?id=2731727What do you think? Are the Chargers (and specifically LT) being sore losers? I mean teams are always celebrating after a win. And the Merriman thing is really annoying. I find it disrespectful, but isn't it a little hypocritical to be lashing out at a team when you have people who do the same thing. I know it is the Patriots and they have won before, but does that mean they have to act like old ladies instead of having some fun. BTW, I think LT has always been very professional. One of the few who will score and just hand the ball to the official. And I think most of the celebrations by the players are really annoying and unprofessional, but I guess that is the nature of the game today.
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Post by brophy on Jan 16, 2007 10:51:21 GMT -6
NFL is entertainment, not a 'sport'.
If you look at it that way, ESPN and the sports writers who make a living off of it, won't irritate you as much when you get bombarded with their idiocy.
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Post by Mav on Jan 16, 2007 11:00:36 GMT -6
Has anyone seen a video of the Patriot player mocking the Chargers? With all of the cameras rolling you'd think we could get a look at it to see if LT has a point. Taunting and pointing fingers doesn't sound like the Patriots of the past -- I'd like to see it and judge it for myself. Initially sounded like frustration and whining to me, but I'd like to hold off until I see what he's referring to.
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JMC
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Post by JMC on Jan 16, 2007 11:38:00 GMT -6
LT makes a point they have won before and should remember what brought the attention to the "Team" five years ago when they were announced as a team in the ultimate individual sport today at the Super Bowl. This crap also comes back to our kids. i can think of two games last year. Team A who was 5 TD's better than Team B, destroys Team B, then goes on to their logo at mid-field after the game and dances on it. 3 weeks later Team A plays an arch-rival and loses the the arch rival returns the favor and dances on their logo and a brawl breaks out. Neither incident was classy and our kids see these idiots on T.V. doing it and think it's right. I say up fines for piss poor sportsmanship.
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Post by wildcat on Jan 16, 2007 14:46:11 GMT -6
I think that it is hilarious that LT complains about NE's "lack of class" when his teammate, Shawne Merriman, does that ridiculous "Lights Out" dance every time he gets a sack.
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Post by gridiron on Jan 16, 2007 14:53:46 GMT -6
If you don't like how somebody celebrates after a win, don't let them beat you! I get so sick of the losing team "policing" how the winners win. Merriman's dance brings attention to himself (hence the name: Merriman's dance), so he better be able to back it up with a win. Didn't he send a "care package" to Jason Taylor to enjoy while "watching the playoffs"? Hopefully he kept a few bags of peanuts for himself.
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Post by spreadattack on Jan 16, 2007 14:59:36 GMT -6
Merriman should be personally taunted before, during, and after games for ruining my admittedly delusional fantasy that NFL players don't use steroids. Merriman should be glad they didn't ban him for life, all this crap about whether he should make the pro bowl or not is meaningless and, in a perfect world, LT would be too dishonored to consider him a teammate.
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Post by wildcat on Jan 16, 2007 15:09:30 GMT -6
I would LOVE to see a guy like Walter Jones do a "pass pro" dance every time they shut down a pass rusher!  |
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Post by wildcat on Jan 16, 2007 15:23:16 GMT -6
NFL is entertainment, not a 'sport'. If you look at it that way, ESPN and the sports writers who make a living off of it, won't irritate you as much when you get bombarded with their idiocy. Bingo. It's all about self-promotion. Consider a guy like Jimmy Smith. Average NFL "fan" doesn't know who Jimmy Smith was. Doesn't know that the guy played for 14 years, caught almost 900 passes, had over 12,000 yards receiving and almost 70 TDs. On the other hand, those same "fans" know who Chad Johnson, Terrel Owens, or Michael Irvin are because those guys did a great job of promoting themselves. Jimmy Smith is a HOFer, yet I wouldn't be surprised if he gets passed over his first year of eligibility simply because he wasn't "outrageous" enough at a position that encourages outrageous behavior... |
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Post by jraybern on Jan 16, 2007 18:48:05 GMT -6
I thought it was interesting that ESPN was saying the other day that the rules for postseason honors will be different. They said that players who are caught using steroids will not be allowed to win postseason awards and will not be included in the Pro Bowl. Good for the NFL. I would also like to see a more strict policy. The part that I found interesting was that they were saying this change has come about something along the lines of because of Jason Taylor's complaining. They were saying it in a way that seemed to say, this cry baby has ruined it for our buddy Merriman. It was really pissing me off. Taylor stood up for what he believed in and the NFL agreed. Now everyone wants to blow it off because he is such a stud. Well he should be - he's cheating. I agree that Merriman should be taunted before, after, during the game, and any other time. That being said, the game would be better if guys were hit with 15 yarders anytime they did anything even resembling taunting. Celebrate with your team but stay out of everyone else's face. I was appalled during some of the bowl games by some of the antics. Punks like Merriman should be laughed into quitting the game.
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coachf
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Post by coachf on Jan 16, 2007 21:25:13 GMT -6
Jimmy Smith is a HOFer, yet I wouldn't be surprised if he gets passed over his first year of eligibility simply because he wasn't "outrageous" enough at a position that encourages outrageous behavior... Getting caught with cocaine is pretty outrageous. Sorry, low blow. I liked Jimmy Smith. |
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jman
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Post by jman on Jan 16, 2007 22:31:03 GMT -6
If you don't like how somebody celebrates after a win, don't let them beat you! I get so sick of the losing team "policing" how the winners win. Merriman's dance brings attention to himself (hence the name: Merriman's dance), so he better be able to back it up with a win. Didn't he send a "care package" to Jason Taylor to enjoy while "watching the playoffs"? Hopefully he kept a few bags of peanuts for himself. Gridiron, I dont buy it. There is an obvious difference between celebrating and taunting. Hopefully we as coaches are teaching our athletes the difference. High fiving, jumping and running with teamates, chanting with your own fans...celebrating. Screaming at the other team, coaches, fans, dancing on logos...taunting...uncalled for and very unsportsman like. Sorry for the lecture Gridiron, I mean no disrespect to you. |
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Post by gridiron on Jan 17, 2007 9:15:06 GMT -6
jman,
No disrespect taken. I agree that I would not want my players taunting, talking trash or any of that other stuff. I just don't like someone from the losing team complaining about how the winner's win. It always sounds like sour grapes to me. There are obvious ways for the Chargers to avoid these "taunts". 1. Don't have a personal dance to bring attention to yourself. Team celebrations are just fine. 2. Don't lose the game. People are always more upset after losing. Losing teams complain about showboating, taunting, poor officiating, cheap shots, running up the score, etc. If the same team would win, their complaints are fewer and much quieter.
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Post by jaspercoach on Jan 17, 2007 9:49:07 GMT -6
NFL is entertainment, not a 'sport'. If you look at it that way, ESPN and the sports writers who make a living off of it, won't irritate you as much when you get bombarded with their idiocy. Amen, brother. |
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jman
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Post by jman on Jan 17, 2007 22:46:37 GMT -6
jman, No disrespect taken. I agree that I would not want my players taunting, talking trash or any of that other stuff. I just don't like someone from the losing team complaining about how the winner's win. It always sounds like sour grapes to me. There are obvious ways for the Chargers to avoid these "taunts". 1. Don't have a personal dance to bring attention to yourself. Team celebrations are just fine. 2. Don't lose the game. People are always more upset after losing. Losing teams complain about showboating, taunting, poor officiating, cheap shots, running up the score, etc. If the same team would win, their complaints are fewer and much quieter. Gridiron, You make a good point. Many coaches often complain about teams that dont know how to win with class. But the opposite is just as true. Just as many teams dont know how to take a loss. No one wants to lose but we all do it sometimes. Isnt it just as important teaching opportunity when you lose as to when you win. The "sour grapes" statement is certainly true. If a coach exhibits a sour grapes attitude after a loss, that is what the kids will learn to have as well. That is just as unsportsmanlike as taunting and such after a win. |
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