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Post by kcbazooka on Jun 30, 2007 14:50:09 GMT -6
Because our district is spread out we are forced to use the two practices back-to-back instead of one in the morning and one at night. You coaches that use the two in one practices when do you do it - morning or evening? Also give me an idea of how you format the time. Two practices with a break in between?, Do you try to lift during two-a-days?
Last season we practiced late because of coaching conflicts and went from 4-9 pm with a break. Was not effective as when 4 pm rolled around the heat index was extreme. We were one of several teams forced to use the gym for our first practice. Got some things done but still not as effective as being able to go outside.
Interested to hear how some of you other coaches schedule two-a-days.
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Post by coach79 on Jun 30, 2007 15:04:14 GMT -6
Start early in the morning 8-9 then follow through with your regular practice, Lunch, 2nd practice.
-Brett
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Post by fbdoc on Jun 30, 2007 15:14:04 GMT -6
For our first week, we have one long practice from 3:00 PM to 7:00 PM. Our coaches are in teacher meetings (or work) during the morning so the afternoon is better fo us. We will spend time on the field, in the weight room, in the film room, and in the gym. Some of the work is full pads and some in shells. The long session allows us time to cover individual drills and team work, along with special teams and conditioning.
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Post by fbcoach33 on Jun 30, 2007 16:03:48 GMT -6
we got from 8-10 and then 1130-130, the second practice can get a little warm but the kids seem to recover just fine with a 130 break, I have thought about going at 7 and move everything up an hour, we do lift after the second practice two days, short lift. I really like the format, you still have a bit of the day left at the end of the second one.
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Post by coachf on Jun 30, 2007 16:23:41 GMT -6
We are going 6:30-8:30 in the AM. 1 hour break. 9:30-11:30 to finish off. Gives everybody the rest of the day off. Plus, for the teachers we get a whole afternoon to work on our class stuff. And the kids can still keep their jobs.
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Post by coachpoe on Jun 30, 2007 16:31:19 GMT -6
similar to coachf and fbcoach...we go 7:30-9:30 hour an a half break then 11-1. Give the kids the rest of the day off. I remember as a player coming back for that second practice in the evening and knowing you had to get up and go back in the morning sucked. This way the kids get some rest between practices but isn't not as long of a day.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 17:05:04 GMT -6
My favorite format is similar to Coachf's only our times were 8-10, one hour off, and then 11-1.
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Post by coachjd on Jun 30, 2007 18:48:12 GMT -6
We go from 8:00-9:45 am and 10:45-12:30. We have chalk talks and wgt lifting sessions in between practices and really promote having a small snack and drinking plenty of fluids. The first practice is defense and some special teams and the 2nd practice is offense and some special teams.
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Post by playfast on Jun 30, 2007 19:07:23 GMT -6
We go 7:00am to 8:20 take a 20 minute break while remaining outside the kids can go under the homestands and take uppers off and we resume at 9:00 and go to 10:20. We go into the locker room and the kids shower and eat and than have meetings. Back on the field at noon (Helmets/Shells) and off at 1:20. Kids will either have a weight room session to 2 or we will do a team activity in the gym.
Kids and staff like the concept of 1hr and 20 minutes get a solid break and work another 1hr and 20 minutes and then lunch and meetings.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 19:13:24 GMT -6
To add to my above post, one nice thing we did was have the booster club bring in fruit, water, and gatorade for the players during that hour break.
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Post by hawkeye on Jun 30, 2007 21:14:45 GMT -6
During two-a-days here in Texas, we have done two practices on M-W-F (2 hours each - 8-10am - 4 - 6pm) and also lift weights after the morning practice. Then on Tues/Thurs go from 8-10 then rest/meetings for an hour and go back out with helmet only for an hour. At this time defensively we go over formation recognition, alignment, responsibilities etc. Usually stuff we just talked about in the meeting. Offensively they walk through run/pass blocking assignments, formation alignment, Rec. motions etc. This hour is more mental work than anything. The kids usually have their legs back after having the afternoon off for the next day of two full practices and weights.
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Post by kcbazooka on Jul 1, 2007 5:03:12 GMT -6
Coaches, I appreciate your input - those of you that give the players an hour off - do they do anything during that break- video, chalktalk or do they get that as time off. One coach mentioned that his boosters fed the kids - what do some of the other programs do - have the kids bring snacks?
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Post by coachjd on Jul 1, 2007 5:30:45 GMT -6
kids bring snacks and we mix up a couple of jugs of gatoraide. We give them about 15 min to take care of this then we have them in classrooms for chalk talks or in the weightroom lifting.
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Post by CoachJohnsonMN on Jul 1, 2007 6:57:29 GMT -6
We have two-a-days on M-W-F. In the morning, we start with a meeting at 8:15 and on the field from 8:45-11:45. We will then have film/meeting at 1:00 and back on the field from 1:30-3:30. We provide a meal for the players in between the practices. It is something simple like hotdogs in a crockpot or we provide the sandwich essentials and they make their own sandwiches. The previous coach did not have two-a-days and parents were concerned with the cost of their sons going to the cafe. We provided the meals to ease everyone into the idea but it has caught on as a great tradition. The players really bond during this time. We just go with the morning schedule for Tuesday & Thursday.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2007 9:13:03 GMT -6
kcbazooka, we felt that if we were asking them to practice physically four out of five hours, they needed the hour off. Not saying weights or chalk board sessions couldn't be done, but that was our feeling.
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Post by coachorr on Jul 1, 2007 12:25:44 GMT -6
I have come from two systems, the first we had chalk talk from 8:30 to 9:00 then on the field from 9:00-11:30. Then we would do the same in the afternoon from 2:30 to 5:00 or 5:30. It was very difficult and I did not like it for two reasons. We had to dress and stretch twice and the second practice was during the heat of the day.
The next place I went to we would go from 5:00 to 6:45 and take a thirty minute break. Then come back and go from 7:15 to 9:30. Kids can keep their jobs and seem to be more attentive as it gets cooler through practice, which is absolutely fantastic. I personally feel, however, that the learning curve is less when you only have a short break between practices.
Ironically, school number one has always beat school number two, this year by 52 points. After doing the math, we are down thirteen + practices compared to other teams before the season even starts. I think one long practice has some benefits mainly, it is easier. And perhaps that is not the best thing.
In my own perfect world I would have a morning practice from 7:00-9:30 and an evening practice from 7:00-9:30pm, because it would give kids the chance to recover and it would not be in the heat of the day.
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Post by chadp56 on Jul 1, 2007 12:59:54 GMT -6
For the first three days we go from about 8:30-11:00 then we have lunch and then have a meeting and come back out from 12:30-2:30 for a second practice. We have to do it all at once for the same reason, large geographical distance. We have about 40 minutes for lunch and about 40 minutes for a meeting. The only challenge is that some of them get a little sleepy for the meeting! We only do this for the first 3 days and we stay at a camp and bus in for this time. We do an easy special teams session at night at the camp. Starting with the 4th day we practice for the same amount of time in the morning but take a shorter break, about a half hour, in between and have the kids bring a snack. That way we are done around 12:30 for the remainder of week 1 and all of week 2. It has worked pretty good for us.
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Post by fbcoach33 on Jul 1, 2007 14:00:40 GMT -6
to answer one of the above questions, in between practices our kids eat a snack and rehydrate, we do have meetings and watch film then as well, but nothing written, they bring their food with them and eat while we watch film etc. some days we give them that time off, I think that small amount of down time can be a positive, they hang out together etc.
one thing I dont think that has been mentioned above is that I think with the short break time, you really have to watch the heat even more, with a limited time getting rehydrated we keep a real close eye on kids in that second practice.
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Post by Yash on Jul 1, 2007 14:21:54 GMT -6
I think that if you keep the practices to about 1:45 with a 30 minute break inbetween its good time efficiency. You don't need to stretch before that second practice, just a 5 minute agility period. I'd suggest 7-845 then 915-11. Get the kids out of there before noon and maybe lift from 11-12 or some film afterwards.
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Post by larrymoe on Jul 1, 2007 17:53:35 GMT -6
Most of our kids quit their jobs before two a days start, so this year we're going
8-10
12-1
5-7
12-1 is just shorts and t-shirts special teams and chalk talk time.
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Post by stone65 on Jul 1, 2007 18:09:59 GMT -6
In the past I have done the two practices back to back and also the morning practice and then the afternoon practice. I like the two practices back to back much better. As a coach you don't have to worry about having players miss practice, and you have more time in the evenings with your family. Between practice the players eat snacks and go inside to the locker room.
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