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Post by faztradamus on Mar 27, 2008 20:51:06 GMT -6
I'm Faz. I'm 20 years old and I am a sophmore in college. Like many of you I will become a teacher upon graduation (History /2ndary Ed, double major). As an aspiring coach, I had a few questions I am hoping some of you can answer.
1) (More of an ED question, sorry) When applying as a first year teacher, better with a BA or MA?
2) I have no coaching experience. I have led people before in scouts, attaing the rank of Eagle Scout and joining the Scouting Honor Society during HS. Will this be a handicap for me as a become a 1st year teacher trying to become a coach?
3) I'm sorry if there is a link to this somewhere on the site (I am just getting accustomed here), but where do I find coaching certification for a slect state? I will likely have to get certified for Indiana, but I plan on teaching in NV.
4) Any other tips, suggestions, etc, are welcome.
I am sure that I will have many more questions in the future. With an anticipated graduation date of 5-??-2010, I have plenty of time to adopt your suggestions and better prepare myself.
Thank you for your time. -Faz
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Post by safetycoach34 on Mar 27, 2008 22:35:36 GMT -6
I do not think that there is a problem with getting ur masters before your first teaching job..I have heard rumors that if you and another candidate are equally qualified why would a school want to pay you extra money even though u do not have anymore more experience. the administrators that i know dont care they want good people working with the kids.
As far as footballwise any leadership position will look good on a resume, but if you really want yours to stand out when you apply for a job volunteer at your college or at a local high school. you will learn so much about the game and will have great references for when you graduate.
As far as certification I believe that most states have a certifcation process that you will have to go through so chech the associations website for the particular state that you want to coach in.
The best suggestion i can give you is to get out there and volunteer and learn the game i played 10 years of football from middle school through college and i learned more about the game in 1 year as a coach then i did in 10 as a player.
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Post by fatkicker on Mar 27, 2008 22:36:24 GMT -6
a masters is always prettier than a bachelors.....but i'd say the state certification is more important.....
google search nevada's state dept. of educaton....i'm sure you can find everything you need for teaching certifications....
many states don't require any kind of coaching requirements......other than cpr, first aid, etc......
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Post by wildcat on Mar 28, 2008 6:55:23 GMT -6
I'm Faz. I'm 20 years old and I am a sophmore in college. Like many of you I will become a teacher upon graduation (History /2ndary Ed, double major). As an aspiring coach, I had a few questions I am hoping some of you can answer. 1) (More of an ED question, sorry) When applying as a first year teacher, better with a BA or MA? Keep in mind that social studies teachers are a dime a dozen...many school districts are on tight budgets and hiring a social studies teacher with a Master's degree means they have to pay that teacher more money. In other words, why pay a first-year social studies teacher with an MA $35,000 /yr when they can pay a first-year social studies teacher with a BA $30,000/yr? What I think is a far better approach would be to get your BA, find a job, and then start working on endorsements (getting certified in other areas to make yourself more marketable). Keep in mind that chances are good that you will most likely NOT work for the same district for your entire career...the more subjects you are certified to teach, the more options you are giving yourself. Also, you can usually take additional classes at the graduate level, so that will move you over on the salary schedule. Additionally, most districts have some kind of tuition reimbursement, so you can use that to help pay for your coursework. Like I said, social studies is a tough gig to break into...few jobs and plenty of qualified people who are applying for them. Master's Degrees really aren't all that impressive anymore...there are so many "degree mills"...what would be far better than that would be to be able to teach multiple subjects. I started off as a junior high social studies teacher, but have had many opportunities because I can also teach Language Arts and Driver's Education. 2) I have no coaching experience. I have led people before in scouts, attaing the rank of Eagle Scout and joining the Scouting Honor Society during HS. Will this be a handicap for me as a become a 1st year teacher trying to become a coach? Not having coaching experience shouldn't be too much of a problem...just be willing to work hard, pay your dues, and learn everything you can and you will be fine. 3) I'm sorry if there is a link to this somewhere on the site (I am just getting accustomed here), but where do I find coaching certification for a slect state? I will likely have to get certified for Indiana, but I plan on teaching in NV. Contact the state board of education or the local Regional Office of Education (ROE...that's what it is called in Illinois). They can let you know what the certification requirements are. Generally speaking, if you are a certified teacher (have a current certificate) you do not need a separate "coaching" certificate. That is usually just for people who coach but don't teach.
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Post by gschwender on Mar 28, 2008 15:34:38 GMT -6
in missouri if you have a teaching certificate you can take the "praxis" test in other areas and if you pass you will be automatically certified to teach that subject as well (have to have initial cert. first)--do not know what it is in other states though
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Post by kurtbryan on Mar 30, 2008 14:05:34 GMT -6
The more experience you can get at any level the better off you will be.
Volunteer to do ANYTHING on a coaching staff: gopher, manager, stats, quality control...do whatever it takes.
Nobody is stopping you - so don't be stopped.
KB
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Post by fbdoc on Mar 30, 2008 16:35:36 GMT -6
I would say if you can get hired with a BA go ahead and take the job. Another way to get experience and exposure is to try and sub as much as possible while you are going to school. Some states are very liberal in who they allow to sub. Getting into the classroom AND doing a good job is a great way to impress a principal.
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Post by k on Mar 30, 2008 18:23:40 GMT -6
1) (More of an ED question, sorry) When applying as a first year teacher, better with a BA or MA? It seems to be popular here to advocate finding a job before getting your MA. No as long as you're not trying to find a HC job. =) Any program would be willing to have someone in the building even if on a volunteer basis. IMO your AD should help you after you're hired as a teacher.
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Post by dacoachmo on Mar 30, 2008 19:09:00 GMT -6
1) (More of an ED question, sorry) When applying as a first year teacher, better with a BA or MA? 2) I have no coaching experience. I have led people before in scouts, attaing the rank of Eagle Scout and joining the Scouting Honor Society during HS. Will this be a handicap for me as a become a 1st year teacher trying to become a coach? 3) I'm sorry if there is a link to this somewhere on the site (I am just getting accustomed here), but where do I find coaching certification for a slect state? I will likely have to get certified for Indiana, but I plan on teaching in NV. 4) Any other tips, suggestions, etc, are welcome. I am sure that I will have many more questions in the future. With an anticipated graduation date of 5-??-2010, I have plenty of time to adopt your suggestions and better prepare myself. Thank you for your time. -Faz 1) DON'T get your Masters...many schools will find the cheapest teacher...plus many schools may pay for your Masters!! 2) Be prepared to start at a lower level. or see if you can volunteer right now during school. 3) Goggle "state name" department of education. different states different certifications! 4) get as many certifications as possible!!!! All Grades!!! what school are you attending?
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Post by faztradamus on Mar 30, 2008 19:24:25 GMT -6
1) (More of an ED question, sorry) When applying as a first year teacher, better with a BA or MA? 2) I have no coaching experience. I have led people before in scouts, attaing the rank of Eagle Scout and joining the Scouting Honor Society during HS. Will this be a handicap for me as a become a 1st year teacher trying to become a coach? 3) I'm sorry if there is a link to this somewhere on the site (I am just getting accustomed here), but where do I find coaching certification for a slect state? I will likely have to get certified for Indiana, but I plan on teaching in NV. 4) Any other tips, suggestions, etc, are welcome. I am sure that I will have many more questions in the future. With an anticipated graduation date of 5-??-2010, I have plenty of time to adopt your suggestions and better prepare myself. Thank you for your time. -Faz 1) DON'T get your Masters...many schools will find the cheapest teacher...plus many schools may pay for your Masters!! 2) Be prepared to start at a lower level. or see if you can volunteer right now during school. 3) Goggle "state name" department of education. different states different certifications! 4) get as many certifications as possible!!!! All Grades!!! what school are you attending? Valparaiso.
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